Re: Ongoing debate on licensing

From: Jupiter Jones [MVP] (jones_jupiter_at_hotnomail.com)
Date: 05/24/03 

Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 13:50:46 -0600

Mundo;
Just to add a thought.
Go through your computer, start with the OS, print the relevant parts
of the EULA and show them to your friend. (not everything, just a few)
Since it is virtually impossible to say nothing is licensed as your
friend says, challenge him for examples of an EULA that supports his
point.
If not the EULA, a point of law, something other than hearsay to
support his point.
I would imagine that could settle it then and there. 

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"MundoDragon" <mundodragon@msn.com> wrote in message
news:187b01c32215$18361140$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> Thanks, Roger. No, this has to do with a current
> discussion and is not reflective on the stipulations of
> the past. We were talking about current License
> agreements and the limitations and benefits of them and
> the topic came up as to just what the limitations were. I
> used to recommend and actually purchase software for a
> newspaper industry I worked for and I have never come
> across any license that allowed you to, say, take the
> software home and install it on your home PC, even if it
> was for company use and that is all you intended to use
> it for. It was strict that the software was to stay on
> premises and only be installed on premises to an equal or
> lesser amount of machines that the license granted. But
> thank you for your info. The person I was debating with
> has no real knowledge of computers or licensing in
> general, but just heard this from someone believed to be
> a knowledgable source. I just wanted to clear this up so
> they did not have any misconception concerning licensing.
> I tried to explain it to my friend, but obviously and
> naturally, most people tend to believe and continue to
> believe the first info they receive on a particular
> subject. Again, thank you for your time. :)
> >-----Original Message-----
> >It just occurred to me that if you are debating with
> >someone that has been around the block for a while,
> >they may be remembering the old days.  There did
> >used to be a loophole in the law whereby a US academic
> >institution could not be prosecuted for use of unlicensed
> >software, but that loophole was closed sometime in the
> >early-mid 1980s.
> >
> >--ra
> >-- 
> >"MundoDragon" <mundodragon@msn.com> wrote in message
> >news:165b01c321f6$ef4ba790$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> >> Ok, this is sort of an ongoing debate between a friend
> >> and I and I would like some clarification in order to
> >> solve this little disagreement we have. It deals with
> >> licensing of Microsoft products. operating systems in
> >> general, but for any product actually, because I
> believe
> >> the agreements are the same. Is there absolutely any
> >> student license available that would allow you to
> freely
> >> distribute the software to anyone you wish, like say a
> >> family member or a friend? I say it's simply
> unfathomable
> >> and definitely not an option, but my friend seems to
> >> think that if you buy a license, the you are free to
> use
> >> those 'installations' as you see fit. I do not think it
> >> works that way and that there are certain stipulations
> >> that are to be met when one purchases a license, for
> >> example, the software may only be utilized by the
> >> institution or individual making the purchase. Any help
> >> on the matter would be greatly appreciated, because it
> >> has led to numerous heated debates on our part. I have
> >> searched and searched online for any info that
> >> specifically answers this elusive question, but alas, I
> >> have failed. Thank you for your time.
> >
> >
> >.
> >

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