Re: Administrator/User security issues

From: GHS-Apathy (cel_ss_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 04/28/03


Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 04:46:40 -0700


the files are not in anyones specific profile, they are in
the shared documents folder so that anyone can access them
from the central folder. But even if the files/folders
were just in someones profile, or if they are in a shared
documents folder like they are now, shouldnt the
administrator account be able to allow/disallow security
privlidges. ive made it so that some accounts have access
to some of the files in the shared documents folder, and
that works fine unless one of the other user accounts goes
in and changed the ownership and begins to modify stuff.

>-----Original Message-----
>This "Users and Administrators can control the files."
>Should have been "Users and Administrators can control
the files in
>the users own profile."
>
>--
>Jupiter Jones
>Check the following link for some great problem solving
newsgroups.
>http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx
>Please respond to newsgroup only. Everyone can benefit
from the
>message.
>
>
>"Jupiter Jones" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in
message
>news:%23hAJBh0CDHA.2316@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Can they change the access for items under any profile
or just
>theirs.
>> Users and Administrators can control the files.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones
>> An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
>>
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/set
up.asp
>> Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.
>>
>>
>> "GHS-Apathy" <cel_ss@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:049401c30b3f$79d2d010$a001280a@phx.gbl...
>> > ok, heres a run down on how the computer is setup...
>> >
>> > im a student at greenwich highschool in 11th grade.
in
>> > the computer graphics classroom that iam in, there are
>> > multiple computers. only one of them has windows xp
at
>> > the moment, so im trying to figure out how to setup
the
>> > security on that computer so we can set it up on all
the
>> > rest of the computers when XP is put on them.
>> >
>> > now on the one computer with windows xp, there will
be a
>> > total of 5 users. 1 admin, and 4 (limited access)
users
>> > with different levels of access. there are 5
different
>> > programs, and each level of user has a different
level of
>> > access to each program. 3 users might have access to
>> > program A while 2 users have no access at all.
>> >
>> > i have setup all the accounts, and created dummy
program
>> > folders for testing the security. so i set
permissions
>> > for all the different users for the programs.
everything
>> > from there works fine, but there is a problem. if i
go
>> > into the user with the lowest level of access, i can
still
>> > goto the security tab and change access for all the
other
>> > users. i do not want anyone to be able to change
>> > permissions but the admin. the users are only being
>> > denyed/allowed access to 5 different folders all
shared in
>> > the shared documents folder. the ONLY problem i have
is
>> > that anyone can go in and add/remove and alter the
>> > permissions for any of the users. i want only the
admin
>> > to have those rights. how do i change it so that no
other
>> > user can change any of the permissions. when i use
>> > advanced permission editing from the admin account, i
set
>> > it so that the other user is not able to
read/change/take
>> > ownership of the folder. but when i go into the other
>> > user, i try to view security on the folder and
something
>> > pops up saying that i cant change anything about the
>> > permissions, but it says that i can "take ownership or
>> > edit the auditing". so i go in as the limited user,
make
>> > myself the owner and now i can add/change/remove/edit
the
>> > permissions and security. now obviously most people
wont
>> > go this far to try to do all this, but if there is 1
>> > person that will, then they can screw it up for
everyone
>> > else. help me again ---GHS-Apathy
>> >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >Stay away from encryption until you fully understand
>> > these documents
>> > >to keep from permanently losing the data.
>> > >EFS is very good at what it does and there is no back
>> > door.
>> >
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/techinfo/administra
>> > tion/recovery/default.asp
>> > >(58 pages)
>> > >http://support.microsoft.com/?id=223316
>> > >
>> > >Is file system NTFS? you need to be for any kind of
>> > security.
>> > >Disable Simple File Sharing:
>> > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-
>> > US;Q307874&
>> > >
>> > >Are other users Administrators?
>> > >Any Administrator can do and undo anything any
>> > Administrator can do.
>> > >You are best to have two accounts for yourself,
>> > Administrator for
>> > >administrative tasks and Limited User for everything
else.
>> > >All other accounts should be Limited Users otherwise
they
>> > can do
>> > >anything as Administrator.
>> > >Each user that desires privacy should also set a
password.
>> > >
>> > >--
>> > >Jupiter Jones
>> > >An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
>> >
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/se
>> > tup.asp
>> > >Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's
benefit.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >"GHS-Apathy" <cel_ss@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > >news:088801c30a6e$0e09f600$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> > >> I am having a problem with making folders
completely
>> > >> secure on my computer with Windows XP. There are
>> > >> currently 5 users, all with different levels of
security
>> > >> on specific folders. I tried the encryption
route, but
>> > >> that didnt work too well so i tried setting
permissions
>> > >> for all my users from the admin account, but when
i went
>> > >> into the other accounts, i found that the other
users
>> > >> could change access levels of the rest of the
users,
>> > they
>> > >> could allow/disallow privlidges on folders. I do
not
>> > want
>> > >> anyone to be able to change permissions except for
the
>> > >> admin account. If possible i would like to not
allow
>> > the
>> > >> security tab in the properties of a folder to be
>> > displayed
>> > >> at all to anyone except for the admin. How can i
>> > prevent
>> > >> this from happening....does it have something to
do with
>> > >> auditing? *HELP*
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >.
>> > >
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>



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