Re: Scheduled Updates Reboots Machines
From: Charlie (sulliaef@bc.edu)
Date: 03/28/03
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From: "Charlie" <sulliaef@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 16:49:06 -0800
I knew about SUS and wondered if it would help. I have
discussed this option with the IT staff in the past as a
way of weeding out the updates that don't seem
necessary. It will be difficult to convince them to
allow me to set up IIS though. Thanks for the info.
Charlie
>-----Original Message-----
>Charlie wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> We have 200+ XP Pro machines on an NT4 Network.
Windows
>> Updates are set to automatically download and then
>> install @3AM every night. Our users do not have Admin
>> rights so they are not prompted to install them after
the
>> download. We've been doing this since Novemeber with
no
>> apparent problems until last week - The updates
rebooted
>> the machines automatically. Needless to say, a lot of
>> users don't log off as they should and some don't even
>> close their apps. One user lost a new document that he
>> had left open. Another keeps a Web accessible
Filemaker
>> DB running which closed down. I didn't realize when I
>> set these up that there would be forced reboots. Is
>> there any documentation on this? Any ideas about a
>> better solution for our environment?
>> Thanks
>
>Hi
>
>You could look at Microsoft Software Update Services
(SUS). The newly released
>SP1 version can suppress reboots.
>
>
>Microsoft Software Update Services
>http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/windowsupdate/sus/de
fault.asp
>
>Note that the free version will only install critical
updates and security
>rollup packages (SRPs).
>
>SUS needs to be installed on a IIS server. Supports
Win2k and WinXP clients
>only. SP1 for WinXP and SP3 for Win2k installs the
WU/SUS client as default.
>
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/itsolutions/msm/swdist/p
msusog.asp
>
>Some info from a previous content in the URL above:
>
><quote>
>SUS is available in two versions. One can be downloaded
from
>http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/windowsupdate/SUS/de
fault.asp ; the other
>is available as a licensing program. The downloadable
version downloads and
>installs operating system critical updates and security
rollup packages (SRPs).
>
>All other patches, including applications, service
packs, and non-critical
>updates that need to be installed before they are issued
as a security rollup
>package, go through distribution and deployment.
>
>For those customers on the Microsoft Software Assurance
(SA) licensing program,
>
>a more comprehensive version of SUS is available that
can download and install
>operating system service packs, non-critical security
updates, and selected
>Quick Fix Engineering (QFE) fixes determined to be vital
to the successful
>operation of the operating system. This version is known
as SUS SA Edition.
>
>Organizations wanting to obtain and use SUS SA Edition
in their environments
>will need to participate in the Software Assurance
program. For more
>information
>
>on this program and licensing in general, see
>http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/default.asp.
></quote>
>
>Note that the SUS SA Edition still is in beta but should
be available in a
>release version soon.
>
>
>There is a separate newsgroup for SUS:
>microsoft.public.softwareupdatesvcs
>
>URL to the group softwareupdatesvcs for those who uses
the not so good Web
>interface to access the newsgroups:
>http://communities.microsoft.com/Newsgroups/default.asp?
ICP=MSCOM&sLCID=US&newsgroup=microsoft.public.softwareupda
tesvcs
>
>
>
>
>
>
>A Web site about SUS with a FAQ and a SUS forum:
>
>SUSserver.com
>http://www.susserver.com/
>
>
>When evaluating hotfix administration methods/programs,
>there are also 3rd party solutions available that will
>give a lot more than what SUS offer, but of course, they
>are not free. It is as always a cost/benefit analyze that
>needs to be done.
>
>Below is links to a 3rd party product example that does
>not need a server to run and no IIS is needed. You can
>deploy mostly all types of hotfixes and service packs
from
>an ordinary workstation if you want. I have not tested
it,
>but it gets a lot of prize by other people e.g. in the
>newsgroups.
>
>
>UpdateEXPERT from Sunbelt
>http://www.sunbelt-software.com/product.cfm?id=357
>
>UpdateEXPERT reseller with a price list
>http://www.softwareshelf.com/products/display.asp?p=71
>
>
>
>
>--
>torgeir
>Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
>Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version
of the 1328 page
>Scripting Guide:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter
>
>
>.
>
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