Re: Use NTFS Permissions in Windows XP Home Edition

From: Roger Abell [MVP] (mvpNOSPAM@asu.edu)
Date: 01/23/03 

From: "Roger Abell [MVP]" <mvpNOSPAM@asu.edu>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:38:58 -0700

Thanks for the feedback.
BTW you should not have an issue doing a repair install
even if it is a pre-install, as long as you use the right CD.

The corruption issue was not cured fully even by W2k SP 1,
and I have seen some on W2k SP3 though these are due to
products from the Office group. The code you introduce
to XP when loading this is the same code that when introduced
to NT 4 (BTW it was a back port out of late W2k beta) caused
the corruptions. It may have installed in a way that did not
backlevel some part and the critical errors were in that part.
Or, it may be there waiting. It does not show in the event log
nor with chkdsk. It shows when you try to use the Security
dialog on an ACL that has become corrupted. Again, it would
happen most commonly when an ACL was both inheriting
permissions and had an explicitly set Deny in it. I am not sure
but believe that somewhere around NT 4 SP 5 or 6 something
shipped that made the situation less common - but of course
the way you are using it you would not be able to get that
upgrade.

Thanks again. 

--
Roger
"Tomothy Spazchrist" <IainMcLaren35@spamtwatter.hotmail.com> wrote in
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> >> > "Darrell" <ddominey86@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:oHiX9.6003$W3.587328@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >> >> i need a way to be able to change ntfs permissions using the
> >> >> security tab
> >> > in
> >> >> normal mode.
> >> >>
> >> >> i know about safe mode lets you do it but its a hasle to do that.
> >> >>
> >> >> there must be a way to get the tab there in normal mode since it
> >> >> is there
> >> > in
> >> >> safe mode
> >> >>
> >> >> even a way to hack it out so i would be able to use it would be
> >> >> acceptable
> >> >>
> >> >> please help me
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > There was a file somewhere on a website (it might have been
> >> > www.ntfs.org) which had a patch for Windows NT 4 to enable the
> >> > security tab. If done on XP Home it would also be enabled.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> True, I have it enabled on mine. Do a search on the MS site for
> >> 'Security Configuration Manager'.
> >>
> >
> > If you have had it for some time and given it much exercise,
> > I would like to pick your brain a little, especially if you have
> > used explicit Deny settings.  When the SCE was released for
> > NT 4 in SP 4 it introduced some issues that would lead to
> > corruption of the security descriptors.  Since this is the same
> > code I would be interested in knowing if you have encountered
> > any corruption issues (again, these most often happened when
> > an explicit Deny was being used in combination with inheritance).
> >
> > TIA,
> > Roger
> >
> >
>
> In addition to my last post, I forgot to add that regularly examine the
> logs in Event Viewer and have never seen anything related to corrupt
> security descriptors, and a chkdsk did not find any such corruption
> either.
>
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