Re: XP Home Recovery Console Password Problem

From: Don Cohen (doncohen@lens-cap.nc.prestige.net)
Date: 10/31/02 

From: "Don Cohen" <doncohen@lens-cap.nc.prestige.net>
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:33:09 -0500

Thanks for the reply.

"Dr. Sysop" <ATDT@555.1212> wrote in message
news:u7enwxJgCHA.1648@tkmsftngp10...
> click this link & download the patch
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q308402

My original post does mention that I waw aware of this article, but I have
the following questions in that regard:

1. It seems to be referring primarily to problems logging on to Recovery
Console when it is *installed* on the Hard Drive, and the instructions
include installing it if not already installed. My situation is not being
able to get in when booting from the XP CD. It wasn't clear to me if this
fix applies to my situation. RC is not currently installed on my system
(and I don't really need it there).

2. The article refers to "To resolve this problem immediately, download the
fix by clicking the download link later in this article" but there is no
link to the fix anywhere in the article that I can find.

3. My system was purchased new in the spring of this year, while the patch
seems to *pre-date* this by many months. Wouldn't it already be present on
my system. I have also installed all the critical and relevant System
Updates via the Windows update site.

So, *if* this really will fix my problem booting from the CD, where do I get
it?

Many thanks again for the reply. 

--
Don
Photo Website at:
http://www.dlcphotography.net
[Remove the "lens cap" for email]
>
> "Don Cohen" <doncohen@lens-cap.nc.prestige.net> wrote in message
> news:uYLYA$FgCHA.2460@tkmsftngp09...
> > Thanks for the reply, Mark.
> >
> >
> > > "Mark L. Ferguson" <marfer_mvp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:#r4GK6FgCHA.1688@tkmsftngp09...
> > > You must have admin rights to change the .net passport for someone
else.
> >
> > I'm a bit confused, then.  The *only* User on the system is
Administrator
> > (me), and I'm apparently logged onto that automatically each time I
boot,
> > with no need to enter a password.  My original problem is that I can't
get
> > into the Recovery Console because XP is asking for a password, and it's
> > apparently blank (or a carriage return, conceivably, per your original
> > guess), won't accept a blank password, and doesn't accept what if I used
> if
> > I had set one up when I purchased and first ran the system.
> >
> > So I'm not wanting to change anything for someone else, since I'm the
only
> > User, apparently logged in as Administrator.  See the original posts
below
> > for the details, since I imagine you're replying to quite a few
different
> > threads.
> >
> > So if I'm the only User, logged in as Administrator, does this still
need
> to
> > be done in Safe Mode?
> >
> > Sorry to prolong this, but I genuinely want to understand how this works
> so
> > I fix it right the first time, and can deal with similar problems down
the
> > road on my own.
> >
> > --
> > Don
> > Photo Website at:
> > http://www.dlcphotography.net
> >
> > [Remove the "lens cap" for email]
> >
> >
> > "Don Cohen" <doncohen@lens-cap.nc.prestige.net> wrote in message
> > news:eVfUsREgCHA.3964@tkmsftngp08...
> > > A follow-up question, Mark:
> > >
> > > I've done a little reading on this command, and nobody else mentions
> > running
> > > it from Safe Mode.  "Kelly's XP Korner" even includes a registry
change
> to
> > > add "control userpasswords2" to the Control Panel.
> > >
> > > Is there some reason this particular change needs to be run within
Safe
> > > Mode?  I'm not challenging, just wanting to better understand this
> before
> > I
> > > do something I'm not too knowledgeable about.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Don
> > > Photo Website at:
> > > http://www.dlcphotography.net
> > >
> > > [Remove the "lens cap" for email]
> > >
> > > "Mark L. Ferguson" <marfer_mvp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:#p2wa85fCHA.3596@tkmsftngp08...
> > > Boot to Safe Mode.
> > >
> > > go to start/run, and type
> > > 'control userpasswords2'
> > >
> > > Uncheck "Users must enter a User name and password"
> > >
> > > Fill out the dialog for Administrator with a blank password.
> > >
> > > I am guessing you actually put a carriage return in as the password.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mark L. Ferguson   TabletPC MVP
> > > Email address : marfer_mvp@yahoo.com  Subject: "QZ" + anything
> > > All email without "QZ" in the subject line will be automatically
> deleted.
> > > marfer's notes for XP  >
> http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/xp_notes.htm
> > > .
> > >
> > > "Don Cohen" <doncohen@lens-cap.nc.prestige.net> wrote in message
> > > news:OFUyUL5fCHA.1744@tkmsftngp11...
> > > > I have a Gateway 700XL running XPHome.  I need to be able to access
> the
> > > > Recovery Console via booting from the XP CD (I've run into
occasional
> > hard
> > > > drive issues when using Partition Magic which need to be repaired
this
> > way
> > > > when I can't boot from the hard drive).
> > > >
> > > > When accessing the Recovery Console (R) option during a boot from
the
> XP
> > > CD:
> > > >
> > > > 1. I'm not always asked for the Administrator Password, which seems
> odd,
> > > but
> > > > I have gotten in previously without entering one.
> > > > 2. When I am asked for it, I can't get in:
> > > >
> > > > If I just hit enter as if there isn't a password (since I don't
recall
> > > > setting up a password when I purchased and setup the system earlier
> this
> > > > year), it still asks for one.
> > > >
> > > > If I enter the password I undoubtedly would have used if I had, it
> > doesn't
> > > > accept it.
> > > >
> > > > Further information:
> > > >
> > > > 1.  When I access the Users applet via Control Panel, and go to
> > > > Administrator (which is the only User set up on this system), I see
an
> > > > option to "Create" a password, but none to change it.  This lead me
to
> > > > conclude that there is no password set up.
> > > >
> > > > 2.  During a normal boot from the hard drive into XP, I am never
asked
> > for
> > > > any password (and I'm not running TweakUI on this system to
> > automatically
> > > > enter it).  Again, this leads me to think no password is present.
> > > >
> > > > So:
> > > >
> > > > 1. How do I determine for sure if an Administrator Password is
> present,
> > > and
> > > > if it is, how do I find out what it is?
> > > >
> > > > 2. If there is no Administrator Password, how do I get Recovery
> Console
> > to
> > > > let me in?
> > > >
> > > > 3. If I end up needing to create an Administrator Password, am I
going
> > to
> > > > have to enter it with each boot (or get TweakUI to do it)?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bottom line is I don't want to change the system's current boot
> > scenario,
> > > > where I don't have to enter anything, but I do need to be able to
> access
> > > the
> > > > Recovery Console when booting from the XP CD.
> > > >
> > > > Any help greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > [One last matter.  I've read through the following MS document, but
am
> > not
> > > > sure this directly pertains to my situation, since I'm not needing
to
> or
> > > > wanting to access the Recovery Console from the hard drive, and
don't
> > > really
> > > > need/want it installed there:]
> > > >
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q308402
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Don
> > > > Photo Website at:
> > > > http://www.dlcphotography.net
> > > >
> > > > [Remove the "lens cap" for email]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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