Re: Shutdown Utilities Do Not Work

From: Eric Perlin [MS] (ericperl@microsoft.com)
Date: 10/18/02


From: "Eric Perlin [MS]" <ericperl@microsoft.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:20:32 -0700


Did you turn on simple file sharing?

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Eric Perlin [MS]
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"Bill Burns" <laburns@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:5eac01c27639$ee4ca8d0$36ef2ecf@tkmsftngxa12...
> Turned on logon auditing to find that the target machine
> (syk7b) is recieving the shutdown.exe as a Guest logon
> account from the initiating machine (asusb).  Since I am
> logged on to the initiating asusb machine as
> administrator, I was surprised.
>
> To confirm the situation I changed the Local Security User
> Rights on "Force shutdown from a remote system" to include
> Guest along with Administrator that was already set.  The
> syk7b machine was then successfully shutdown from the
> asusb initiating machine.  Both assub and syk7b are XP
> Professional machines and in the same workgroup.  The
> shutdown.exe process initiated from asusb always presents
> itself as a Guest logon account whether from an XP shell
> window, a .cmd file, or from the run box under START.
>
> Since I only want to run shutdown under an administrator
> logon account on the target machine(s), is there a setting
> or methodology that that will achieve my objective?
>
> Thanks for the help.  Much appreciated.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I can't reproduce this behavior.
> >If you turn logon auditing on the target (control
> panel/local policies/Audit
> >policy), you should see the network logon in the security
> eventlog.
> >Does it succeed?
> >
> >--
> >Eric Perlin [MS]
> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> >---
> >
> >"Bill Burns" <laburns@attbi.com> wrote in message
> >news:3dbd01c274ce$911c4830$3aef2ecf@TKMSFTNGXA09...
> >> The authentication is valid because both XP Professional
> >> machines in the workgroup have the same administrator
> user
> >> name and password.  Even tried logging on the target
> >> machine using a power user and then using the net use
> >> command followed by the shutdown command from the
> >> initiating machine - same result "Access Denied". The
> net
> >> use command execute correctly.  I would like to
> understand
> >> what is going on here.  Can you duplicate this
> sitaution?
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Are you authenticated as an admin on the machine you
> want
> >> to shutdown?
> >> >Prior to: shutdown -s -t 0 -m \\MachineA
> >> >Try: net use \\MachineA /u:MachineA\administrator
> >> <MachineA admin's password
> >> >here>
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Eric Perlin [MS]
> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
> and
> >> confers no rights.
> >> >---
> >> >
> >> >"Bill Burns" <laburns@attbi.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:332b01c27496$8f952d70$36ef2ecf@tkmsftngxa12...
> >> >> The shutdown.exe utility works on the computer it is
> >> >> initiated on (XP=shutdown -l or W2K=shutdown /L), but
> >> try
> >> >> a cross platform shut down from Windows 2000 to XP
> >> >> Professional (shutdown \\xxxxx /S) or XP
> Professional to
> >> >> XP Professional (shutdown -m \\yyyyy -s).  Cross
> >> platform
> >> >> shut downs work correctly from XP Professional to
> >> Windows
> >> >> 2000 Advanced Server and from W2K to W2K.
> >> >>
> >> >> Using two XP Professional machines I get "Access
> >> Denied".
> >> >> Only administrator accounts are logged on the XP
> >> >> Professional computers running in a workgroup.  The
> >> Local
> >> >> Security Policy for Local Users is set exactly the
> same
> >> on
> >> >> both XP Professional machines.  Local User Rights
> >> >> polices "Shut down the system" and "Force shutdown
> from
> >> a
> >> >> remote system" are set to Administrator.  The Local
> User
> >> >> Right "Deny access to this computer from the
> Network" is
> >> >> set to "SUPPORT_388945a0".
> >> >>
> >> >> Has anyone succeeded in what is described above, and
> if
> >> so,
> >> >> what are the Security Policy settings.
> >> >>
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >Bill Burns wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The utilities shutdown.exe and nltest.exe do not
> work
> >> >> >> correctly across or within XP and Windows 2000
> >> >> >> environments.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It seems starnge, but the version of shutdown.exe
> for
> >> >> >> Windows 2000 displays an error message box that
> >> relates
> >> >> >> one of the problems being that the target computer
> >> may
> >> >> not
> >> >> >> be an NT machine.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> What a mess Microsoft has created.  I'll look for
> a
> >> >> third
> >> >> >> party utility or write my own code.  Microsoft
> really
> >> >> >> knows how to waste our valuable time.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Sorry, but it may be your system, as I'm not having
> >> >> >any problems with shutdown.exe (XP Professional).
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Larry
> >> >> >.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >


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