Re: SP1 worries?

From: Roger Abell (abell@asu.edu)
Date: 09/17/02 

From: "Roger Abell" <abell@asu.edu>
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 23:54:33 -0700

" Mark Strelecki, ACP" <be6-507@nospam.strelecki.com> wrote in message
news:e1ox86gXCHA.4200@tkmsftngp08...
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> Good one, Roger.
>
> Understandable concern, considering the horse to which you've hitched your
> wagon.
>
> <grin>
>

Hey Mark, I have not totally forgotten a dozen years
running multiuser *nix hosts and pgm'ing YMPs :-) 

--
Roger
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> --
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> Mark Strelecki,  ACP          BE6.XP1097.020817
> Atlanta, GA. - Computing and Programming Since 1975
> I MAKE IT GO!  ©
> http://www.strelecki.com/links.html
> --------------------------------------
> "I think the sole purpose of our inventions
> is to fill our needs to be mad at something."
> Paul Roussin, August, 2002
>
>
> "Roger Abell [MVP]" <mvpNOSPAM@asu.edu> wrote in message
> news:uaefOvfXCHA.1688@tkmsftngp10...
> > While I agree that there are a number of new clauses
> > that appeared with the XP release, I also note that
> > some or many of the ones you have cited are presented
> > without the clauses associated with them in the EULA
> > which constrain them.
> >
> > I am just hoping that no one follows up on this thread
> > based on these quotes without first having read these
> > quotes in their full context as found in eula.txt
> >
> > --
> > Roger Abell
> > MS MVP (Security, Windows), MCDBA,  MCSE both
> > Associate Expert - Windows XP ExpertZone
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >
> > " Mark Strelecki, ACP" <be6-507@nospam.strelecki.com> wrote in message
> > news:ul0iLWfXCHA.2176@tkmsftngp12...
> > >
> > > Mike -
> > >
> > > Which parts (plural) are troubling, you ask?
> > >
> > >
> > > "There are
> > >       technological measures in this Product that are designed
> > >       to prevent unlicensed or illegal use of the Product.
> > >       You agree that we may use those measures."
> > >
> > > "Microsoft reserves all rights not
> > >       expressly granted to you in this EULA."
> > >
> > > "Microsoft reserves the right to discontinue any
> > >     Internet-based services provided to you or made available
> > >     to you through the use of the Product."
> > >
> > > "The initial user of the
> > >     Product may make a one-time transfer of the Product to
> > >     another end user."
> > >
> > > "You agree that Microsoft and its
> > >       affiliates may collect and use technical information
> > >       gathered in any manner..."
> > >
> > > "You acknowledge and agree that
> > >       Microsoft may automatically check the version of the
> > >       Product and/or its components that you are utilizing
> > >       and may provide upgrades or fixes to the Product that
> > >       will be automatically downloaded to your Workstation
> > >       Computer."
> > >
> > > "You therefore agree that, if
> > >       you elect to download a license from the Internet which
> > >       enables your use of Secure Content, Microsoft may, in
> > >       conjunction with such license, also download onto your
> > >       computer such Security Updates that a Secure Content
> > >       Owner has requested that Microsoft distribute."
> > >
> > >
> > > That's a few of them in the OS product that are "troubling".
> > >
> > > There are others in the WMP and SP products, as well.
> > >
> > > Thanks for asking.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Mark Strelecki,  ACP          BE6.XP1097.020817
> > > Atlanta, GA. - Computing and Programming Since 1975
> > > I MAKE IT GO!  ©
> > > http://www.strelecki.com/links.html
> > > --------------------------------------
> > > "I think the sole purpose of our inventions
> > > is to fill our needs to be mad at something."
> > > Paul Roussin, August, 2002
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Brannigan [MS]" <mikebran@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:O7EYs4dXCHA.2056@tkmsftngp09...
> > > > "Tim Jensen" <requeth@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:050601c25ddc$31cb71c0$3aef2ecf@TKMSFTNGXA09...
> > > > > I worry a bit abut the whole EULA system I've read about
> > > > > in SP1. Maybe Micro can put my mind to ease a bit, but
> > > > > I'm a programmer and I dont like the idea of them being
> > > > > able to snoop my computer and own my files. After this
> > > > > mistake of theirs I think a lot of people will be
> > > > > switching to Linux, I know I probably will be.
> > > >
> > > > Tim,
> > > >
> > > > Which bit of the EULA is troubling you ?
> > > > There is no "EULA system" in SP1
> > > > We cannot snoop on your files or your PC.
> > > >
> > > > Please post your concerns and we will endeavour to address them.
> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > --
> > > > Mike Brannigan [MS]
> > > >
> > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > > > rights
> > > >
> > > > Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions.
> > > > Please use these newsgroups
> > > >
> > > > "Tim Jensen" <requeth@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:050601c25ddc$31cb71c0$3aef2ecf@TKMSFTNGXA09...
> > > > > I worry a bit abut the whole EULA system I've read about
> > > > > in SP1. Maybe Micro can put my mind to ease a bit, but
> > > > > I'm a programmer and I dont like the idea of them being
> > > > > able to snoop my computer and own my files. After this
> > > > > mistake of theirs I think a lot of people will be
> > > > > switching to Linux, I know I probably will be.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim
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