Re: they were there before. Re: not using fast user switching. Re: Logs off after choosing a built-in guest account

From: Walter Clayton (w-claytonNO@SPmvpsAM.org)
Date: 08/18/02


From: "Walter Clayton" <w-claytonNO@SPmvpsAM.org>
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 13:01:55 -0400

One word:

TweakUI.

If you tell TweakUI to show the Administrator user on the Welcome screen,
then Administrator will show up on the control panel user applet.

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(MPS-D)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://www.dts-l.org
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
"Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
news:#sFAcetRCHA.1784@tkmsftngp12...
> I had known that I can see the user "Administrator" in the user control
> panel applet when signing on as Administrator.
> How to log on as a built-in Guest account user?
> How to show the built-in Guest and Administrator accounts in the 'User
> Accounts' window in 'Control Panel' when signing on as another user? The
> accounts were there before when signing on as another user.
> "Walter Clayton" <w-claytonNO@SPmvpsAM.org> wrote in message
> news:OwdoV0lRCHA.2272@tkmsftngp11...
> > Dimitriy.
> >
> > Do the following exactly. Do not deviate from these instructions. If you
> > fail to follow these instructions to the letter you will *not* see the
> user
> > "Administrator" in the user control panel applet. The instructions I'm
> > giving you will let you see "Administrator" in the user control panel
> > applet.
> >
> > Method 1):
> > Do a restart on the machine or turn it on for the first time. Note that
> you
> > can not use FUS for this technique. All other users must be logged out
so
> > it's easier to simply restart the machine.
> > If you are using the Welcome screen, press ctrl-alt-del twice in order
to
> > get the original login screen.
> > Type in "Administrator" in the User line.
> > Type in the user Administrator's password in the password box.
> > Sign on as Administrator. IMPORTANT NOTE: CRITICAL! If you attempt to
log
> in
> > with any other user name other than "Administrator" the remainder of
these
> > steps will fail. In which case, you must start over.
> > Once the system is, go into control panel user applet. You will now see
> the
> > user "Administrator" listed.
> >
> > Method 2:
> > Reboot the machine into safe mode. Post back if you need exact
> instructions
> > on how to do this.
> > Login as user "Administrator". IMPORTANT NOTE: CRITICAL! If you attempt
to
> > log in with any other user name then the remainder of the instructions
> will
> > fail.
> > Once the system is up, go into control panel user applet. You will now
see
> > the user "Administrator" listed.
> >
> > Follow one of the above instructions exactly. Do not deviate. Make
certain
>
> > you log in as the user "Administrator". Failure to log in as
> "Administrator"
> > will cause these methods to fail. There is actually a 3rd method, but
> until
> > it's determined whether or not there is a problem with either of the two
> > previous methods, then there is no point in looking at the 3rd method
> since
> > it too will fail.
> >
> > --
> > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(MPS-D)
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> > http://www.dts-l.org
> > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> >
> >
> > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
> > news:O7MW#hgRCHA.1676@tkmsftngp12...
> > > I have not deleted the "Guest" account.
> > > The built-in Guest and Administrator accounts were in the 'User
> Accounts'
> > > window in 'Control Panel' before.
> > > "Walter Clayton" <w-claytonNO@SPmvpsAM.org> wrote in message
> > > news:#zhLvEURCHA.4088@tkmsftngp09...
> > > > Read what I said again.
> > > >
> > > > Log in as "Administrator". Do not log in as a user with admin
rights.
> > > That's
> > > > two distinct things.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(MPS-D)
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
advanced.
> > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
> > > > news:ezp3DySRCHA.1796@tkmsftngp11...
> > > > > Hello
> > > > > I'm a user with administrator rights.
> > > > > "Walter Clayton" <w-claytonNO@SPmvpsAM.org> wrote in message
> > > > > news:O9l0LkSRCHA.1672@tkmsftngp12...
> > > > > > OK. I just dropped my machine to confirm.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > User "Administrator" only shows up if you are logged in as
> > > > > "Administrator".
> > > > > > This is by design. You do not want any one playing games with
> > > > > > "Administrator" other than the actual system administrator,
> > especially
> > > > > other
> > > > > > users with admin rights that decide to get cute and lock out the
> > > system
> > > > > > administrator.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you are seeing with the user "Administrator" is by design.
> Log
> > in
> > > > as
> > > > > > "Administrator" and if you still don't see "Administrator" then
> you
> > > have
> > > > a
> > > > > > problem, possibly related to the problem with "Guest".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Guest account is a different issue. From the sound of it, you've
> > > locked
> > > > it
> > > > > > out somehow via gpedit or you've actually deleted the account.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(MPS-D)
> > > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
> > advanced.
> > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > > >
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:uT80VXSRCHA.1948@tkmsftngp12...
> > > > > > > Hello
> > > > > > >  There are not built-in Guest and Administrator accounts in
the
> > > 'User
> > > > > > > Accounts' window in 'Control Panel'. But they were there
before.
> > > > > > > "Walter Clayton" <w-claytonNO@SPmvpsAM.org> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:#5qLzTSRCHA.3772@tkmsftngp08...
> > > > > > > > With XP, the user Administrator does not show up in the
> control
> > > > panel
> > > > > > user
> > > > > > > > accounts applet. At least not in work station mode while
> logged
> > in
> > > > as
> > > > > an
> > > > > > > > admin class user. That is by design.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(MPS-D)
> > > > > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
> > > > advanced.
> > > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > > > > >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:OL6PiJPRCHA.2736@tkmsftngp12...
> > > > > > > > > Hello
> > > > > > > > > There are all accounts in the 'User Accounts' window,
which
> is
> > > > > evoked
> > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > control userpasswords2. But there are not all accounts in
> the
> > > > 'User
> > > > > > > > > Accounts' window in 'Control Panel'.
> > > > > > > > > There are all groups in 'Local users and Groups' window.
> > > > > > > > > "Roger Abell [MVP]" <mvpNOSPAM@asu.edu> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news:uFX5hEPRCHA.1496@tkmsftngp11...
> > > > > > > > > > with control userpasswords2 you should be seeing all
> > > > > > > > > > accounts (and all groups by using advanced in advanced)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Roger Abell
> > > > > > > > > > MS MVP (Windows Platform), MCSE, MCDBA
> > > > > > > > > > Associate Expert - Windows XP ExpertZone
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > news:OEPkF5ORCHA.1756@tkmsftngp11...
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello
> > > > > > > > > > > There are built-in Guest and Administrator accounts.
> > > > > > > > > > > "Roger Abell [MVP]" <mvpNOSPAM@asu.edu> wrote in
message
> > > > > > > > > > > news:ugFtHxORCHA.3696@tkmsftngp11...
> > > > > > > > > > > > Oh my.  I had assumed you meant the Welcome screen
> also.
> > > > > > > > > > > > All accounts should be in the control panel listing.
> > > > > > > > > > > > What do you get when you run the following cmd ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > control userpasswords2
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > Roger Abell
> > > > > > > > > > > > MS MVP (Windows Platform), MCSE, MCDBA
> > > > > > > > > > > > Associate Expert - Windows XP ExpertZone
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in
message
> > > > > > > > > > > > news:OwylkXORCHA.212@tkmsftngp11...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not using fast user switching.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The built-in administrator account was in the
> Control
> > > > Panel
> > > > > > > 'User
> > > > > > > > > > > > Accounts'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > window in an other administrator account session
> > before.
> > > > How
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > built-in administrator account reappear in the
> Control
> > > > Panel
> > > > > > > 'User
> > > > > > > > > > > > Accounts'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > window in an other administrator account session?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Walter Clayton" <w-claytonNO@SPmvpsAM.org> wrote
in
> > > > message
> > > > > > > > > > > > > news:#Rq3I3LRCHA.3188@tkmsftngp12...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st question:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure. Are you using fast user switching?
> If
> > > so,
> > > > > log
> > > > > > > off
> > > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > users then try the guest account. If that works,
> > then
> > > > > there
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > something
> > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the common startup that doesn't like running
with
> > > guest
> > > > > user
> > > > > > > > > > > > restrictions.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd question:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can't. You can use either of the following
two
> > > > options
> > > > > > > > though
> > > > > > > > > > (and
> > > > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > least one should work on HE):
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > start->run->lusrmgr.msc
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > start->run->control userpasswords2
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(MPS-D)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is
> > > > > insufficiently
> > > > > > > > > > advanced.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in
> > message
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > news:OA9#9LDRCHA.3360@tkmsftngp11...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why does Windows XP saves built-in guest
account
> > > > > settings
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > logs
> > > > > > > > > > > off
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immediately after clicking the built-in guest
> > > account
> > > > > icon
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Welcome'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > screen?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How to make a built-in administrator account
> > > reappear
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > 'User
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Accounts'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > window in an other administrator account
> session?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please, click Message menu, then 'Reply to
all'
> in
> > > > > Outlook
> > > > > > > > > > Express.
> > > > > > > > > > > > This
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sends your reply to the newsgroups and to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my email address at the same time. Or reply to
> the
> > > > > > > newsgroups
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > e-mail.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr. Dmitriy Kopnichev
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e-mail: kopn@hotbox.ru
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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