Re: they were there before. Re: not using fast user switching. Re: Logs off after choosing a built-in guest account
From: Walter Clayton (w-claytonNO@SPmvpsAM.org)
Date: 08/18/02
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From: "Walter Clayton" <w-claytonNO@SPmvpsAM.org> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 13:01:55 -0400
One word:
TweakUI.
If you tell TweakUI to show the Administrator user on the Welcome screen,
then Administrator will show up on the control panel user applet.
-- Walter Clayton - MS MVP(MPS-D) Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. http://www.dts-l.org http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message news:#sFAcetRCHA.1784@tkmsftngp12... > I had known that I can see the user "Administrator" in the user control > panel applet when signing on as Administrator. > How to log on as a built-in Guest account user? > How to show the built-in Guest and Administrator accounts in the 'User > Accounts' window in 'Control Panel' when signing on as another user? The > accounts were there before when signing on as another user. > "Walter Clayton" <w-claytonNO@SPmvpsAM.org> wrote in message > news:OwdoV0lRCHA.2272@tkmsftngp11... > > Dimitriy. > > > > Do the following exactly. Do not deviate from these instructions. If you > > fail to follow these instructions to the letter you will *not* see the > user > > "Administrator" in the user control panel applet. The instructions I'm > > giving you will let you see "Administrator" in the user control panel > > applet. > > > > Method 1): > > Do a restart on the machine or turn it on for the first time. Note that > you > > can not use FUS for this technique. All other users must be logged out so > > it's easier to simply restart the machine. > > If you are using the Welcome screen, press ctrl-alt-del twice in order to > > get the original login screen. > > Type in "Administrator" in the User line. > > Type in the user Administrator's password in the password box. > > Sign on as Administrator. IMPORTANT NOTE: CRITICAL! If you attempt to log > in > > with any other user name other than "Administrator" the remainder of these > > steps will fail. In which case, you must start over. > > Once the system is, go into control panel user applet. You will now see > the > > user "Administrator" listed. > > > > Method 2: > > Reboot the machine into safe mode. Post back if you need exact > instructions > > on how to do this. > > Login as user "Administrator". IMPORTANT NOTE: CRITICAL! If you attempt to > > log in with any other user name then the remainder of the instructions > will > > fail. > > Once the system is up, go into control panel user applet. You will now see > > the user "Administrator" listed. > > > > Follow one of the above instructions exactly. Do not deviate. Make certain > > > you log in as the user "Administrator". Failure to log in as > "Administrator" > > will cause these methods to fail. There is actually a 3rd method, but > until > > it's determined whether or not there is a problem with either of the two > > previous methods, then there is no point in looking at the 3rd method > since > > it too will fail. > > > > -- > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(MPS-D) > > Associate Expert > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. > > http://www.dts-l.org > > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp > > > > > > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message > > news:O7MW#hgRCHA.1676@tkmsftngp12... > > > I have not deleted the "Guest" account. > > > The built-in Guest and Administrator accounts were in the 'User > Accounts' > > > window in 'Control Panel' before. > > > "Walter Clayton" <w-claytonNO@SPmvpsAM.org> wrote in message > > > news:#zhLvEURCHA.4088@tkmsftngp09... > > > > Read what I said again. > > > > > > > > Log in as "Administrator". Do not log in as a user with admin rights. > > > That's > > > > two distinct things. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(MPS-D) > > > > Associate Expert > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. > > > > http://www.dts-l.org > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message > > > > news:ezp3DySRCHA.1796@tkmsftngp11... > > > > > Hello > > > > > I'm a user with administrator rights. > > > > > "Walter Clayton" <w-claytonNO@SPmvpsAM.org> wrote in message > > > > > news:O9l0LkSRCHA.1672@tkmsftngp12... > > > > > > OK. I just dropped my machine to confirm. > > > > > > > > > > > > User "Administrator" only shows up if you are logged in as > > > > > "Administrator". > > > > > > This is by design. You do not want any one playing games with > > > > > > "Administrator" other than the actual system administrator, > > especially > > > > > other > > > > > > users with admin rights that decide to get cute and lock out the > > > system > > > > > > administrator. > > > > > > > > > > > > What you are seeing with the user "Administrator" is by design. > Log > > in > > > > as > > > > > > "Administrator" and if you still don't see "Administrator" then > you > > > have > > > > a > > > > > > problem, possibly related to the problem with "Guest". > > > > > > > > > > > > Guest account is a different issue. From the sound of it, you've > > > locked > > > > it > > > > > > out somehow via gpedit or you've actually deleted the account. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(MPS-D) > > > > > > Associate Expert > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone > > > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently > > advanced. > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message > > > > > > news:uT80VXSRCHA.1948@tkmsftngp12... > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > There are not built-in Guest and Administrator accounts in the > > > 'User > > > > > > > Accounts' window in 'Control Panel'. But they were there before. > > > > > > > "Walter Clayton" <w-claytonNO@SPmvpsAM.org> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:#5qLzTSRCHA.3772@tkmsftngp08... > > > > > > > > With XP, the user Administrator does not show up in the > control > > > > panel > > > > > > user > > > > > > > > accounts applet. At least not in work station mode while > logged > > in > > > > as > > > > > an > > > > > > > > admin class user. That is by design. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(MPS-D) > > > > > > > > Associate Expert > > > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone > > > > > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently > > > > advanced. > > > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org > > > > > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:OL6PiJPRCHA.2736@tkmsftngp12... > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > > There are all accounts in the 'User Accounts' window, which > is > > > > > evoked > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > control userpasswords2. But there are not all accounts in > the > > > > 'User > > > > > > > > > Accounts' window in 'Control Panel'. > > > > > > > > > There are all groups in 'Local users and Groups' window. > > > > > > > > > "Roger Abell [MVP]" <mvpNOSPAM@asu.edu> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:uFX5hEPRCHA.1496@tkmsftngp11... > > > > > > > > > > with control userpasswords2 you should be seeing all > > > > > > > > > > accounts (and all groups by using advanced in advanced) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Roger Abell > > > > > > > > > > MS MVP (Windows Platform), MCSE, MCDBA > > > > > > > > > > Associate Expert - Windows XP ExpertZone > > > > > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:OEPkF5ORCHA.1756@tkmsftngp11... > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > > > > There are built-in Guest and Administrator accounts. > > > > > > > > > > > "Roger Abell [MVP]" <mvpNOSPAM@asu.edu> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > > news:ugFtHxORCHA.3696@tkmsftngp11... > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh my. I had assumed you meant the Welcome screen > also. > > > > > > > > > > > > All accounts should be in the control panel listing. > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you get when you run the following cmd ? > > > > > > > > > > > > control userpasswords2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Roger Abell > > > > > > > > > > > > MS MVP (Windows Platform), MCSE, MCDBA > > > > > > > > > > > > Associate Expert - Windows XP ExpertZone > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > > > news:OwylkXORCHA.212@tkmsftngp11... > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not using fast user switching. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The built-in administrator account was in the > Control > > > > Panel > > > > > > > 'User > > > > > > > > > > > > Accounts' > > > > > > > > > > > > > window in an other administrator account session > > before. > > > > How > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > built-in administrator account reappear in the > Control > > > > Panel > > > > > > > 'User > > > > > > > > > > > > Accounts' > > > > > > > > > > > > > window in an other administrator account session? > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Walter Clayton" <w-claytonNO@SPmvpsAM.org> wrote in > > > > message > > > > > > > > > > > > > news:#Rq3I3LRCHA.3188@tkmsftngp12... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1st question: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure. Are you using fast user switching? > If > > > so, > > > > > log > > > > > > > off > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > users then try the guest account. If that works, > > then > > > > > there > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the common startup that doesn't like running with > > > guest > > > > > user > > > > > > > > > > > > restrictions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd question: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can't. You can use either of the following two > > > > options > > > > > > > > though > > > > > > > > > > (and > > > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > least one should work on HE): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > start->run->lusrmgr.msc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > start->run->control userpasswords2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(MPS-D) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Associate Expert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is > > > > > insufficiently > > > > > > > > > > advanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in > > message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > news:OA9#9LDRCHA.3360@tkmsftngp11... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why does Windows XP saves built-in guest account > > > > > settings > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > logs > > > > > > > > > > > off > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > immediately after clicking the built-in guest > > > account > > > > > icon > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Welcome' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > screen? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How to make a built-in administrator account > > > reappear > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > 'User > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Accounts' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > window in an other administrator account > session? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please, click Message menu, then 'Reply to all' > in > > > > > Outlook > > > > > > > > > > Express. > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sends your reply to the newsgroups and to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my email address at the same time. Or reply to > the > > > > > > > newsgroups > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e-mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr. Dmitriy Kopnichev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e-mail: kopn@hotbox.ru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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