Re: Run As Adminstrator - why hasn't it saved us?

In the spirit of friendly and informative dialogue I submit this:

First thing one needs to do when migrating from XP to Vista is to forget
about XP. Vista is not an upgraded version of XP. Vista is a new and
different OS with more powerful features than XP.

I've had Vista for a year now. No blue screen. No need to reinstall OS
because of a corrupt file. I think that the UAC has contributed to protecting
the integrity of the OS.

I've run Vista with various kinds of UAC configurations.
Right now I find the best set up for me is using a standard account
everyday with the administrator account sitting on the sideline in case I
ever need to access it (which I rarely do.)

Yes, the UAC will ask me for the administrator password once in a while but
only for global operations that will affect other users. I do not find the
occasional UAC prompt a nuisance anymore than I find my home security
lighting system.

If I had the money I’d replace all of my XP machines with Vista.

--
oscar :)

....Right click is your very good friend...


"riix" wrote:


To all that replied - thanks for your comments and no disrespect
intended please, but seems we missed the issues:

1) when attempting to run as a Power User, the "RunAs Administrator"
seems to be completely wrong in concept, yet has been around since ..
NT3? Can this really be? Or am I totally not understanding how its
supposed to work?

2) Why does disabling UAC also disable "RunAs.." - again: these are
totally different concepts, why are they coupled?

3) UAC is _not_ a minor inconvenience, it is a *major* hassle for
members of a development shop. Its not just a click. Its the constant
jarring effect of the screen going dim (or even black) for a second or
two, the box, the click, the blink back to reality, then a few seconds
later .. Event Viewer, IIS Admin, SQL studio, etc.

Doing this, maybe 30-40 times a day? When XP just worked?

And all this because the Vista product, and Microsoft narrow-mindness,
won't allow me to work in a more intelligent fashion - which is: as a
Power User and *not* as an Administrator?

4) and maybe that's a bottom line - why does Vista install and create
its users as Administrators? A while ago my son bought a new Acer
computer with Vista Home Exceptional (or whatever its called). First
thing I did was create an Adminstrator id, write the password on his
monitor, then downgraded his ID to Normal User. He's now been using it
for over a month and HAS NOT EVEN NOTICED he's not an Administrator,
that is, it hasn't affected him at all.

Why doesn't Vista do this by default ?

5) I've just found references to "UAC Manifest" files - does anyone
have real, honest, practical experience with this as a way of calming
UAC?

Cheers.


--
riix

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Relevant Pages

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