Re: NTFS copy/move within partition
- From: "Al Dunbar" <alandrub@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 23:45:09 -0500
"Johnny Chuah" <JohnnyChuah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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These are the instructions. I perform them on XP/2000/2003/2008.
1. Create a new folder in the root of C: named FolderA
2. Create a new folder in the root of C: and two files within it with the
following criteria:
. Name this folder: FolderE.
. Name the files: FileE1 and FileE2
3. Change the permissions of FolderE.
. Add a few users and groups into the permissions list.
. Make sure you change the permissions enough so that you can easily
distinguish the difference between the permissions of FolderA and FolderE.
4. Check the permissions of the two files in FolderE to make sure that
they
inherited the permissions of their parent (FolderE).
5. Copy FileE1 to FolderC.
6. Check the permissions of FileE1.
. Have the permissions changed?
7. Move FileE2 to FolderC.
8. Check the permissions of FileE2.
. Have the permissions changed?
In XP/2000/2003, they have the same traditional results; the copied file
inherits FolderA permissions, the moved file does not. In 2008, both
files,
inherit FolderA permissions, even the moved file. I also try moving the
file
to other folder locations within the same partition with different
permission
sets, and the file always inherits the destination. ???
Thanks for the detailed info, but I had suggested that you include a cacls
dump of the permissions. The GUI shows a simplified rendition of the
permissions, whose actual structure is often somewhat more complex than
might be imagined
As well, you could try setting the permissions as you describe above using
XP, and then do the move using 2008, and vice versa.
/Al
"Al Dunbar" wrote:
"Johnny Chuah" <Johnny Chuah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I've been doing this for years in 2000, XP, 2003. Now testing on Server
2008
Standard - porting my 2003 lab exercises to 2008. I have a FolderX with
two
files, I set specific permissions for users for both files. I copy one
file
to FolderY and move one file to the same FolderY. Both files inherit
the
destination folder's permissions. ?? In the past, the copied file
inherited
the destination's NTFS properties (compression, encryption, security)
but
the
moved file kept its original properties. Has anything changed? I've
tried
this 4 times in 2008 and it inherits the destination properties, tried
it
again multiple times in 2003/XP and they do what they're supposed to do
(different copy and move results). Help??
Some things to consider:
- Same partition, ok, but are you referencing them through the same
drive letter or UNC?
- how *exactly* are you permitting the files - i.e., show a cacls
dump.
An earlier change to NTFS that added dynamic inheritance resulted in
similar
anomalies. When the upgrade was applied, a partition that had previously
had
its file permissions inherited statically might be shown as if the
inheritance was dynamic, however, it was never clear to me whether or not
the dynamic inheritance was actually enabled in those cases. There were
also
problems resulting from setting permissions from older clients.
/Al
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