Re: Restricting Domain Admins

From: Roger Abell (mvpNOSpam_at_asu.edu)
Date: 06/02/05


Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:00:49 -0700

I believe that there is a KB article that was eventually published which
lists the principals that automatically get their ACLs refreshed from the
AdminSDHolder. I do not have that specific KB number to hand, but
there appears there could be some important for you info hiding in these
http://support.microsoft.com/search/default.aspx?qu=AdminSDHolder

-- 
Roger Abell
Microsoft MVP (Windows  Security)
MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4)  MCDBA
"Lee" <lee@nowehere.com> wrote in message
news:OU8AHn2ZFHA.3040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> All,
>
> Thanks very much for your replies.
>
> Roger, I have been trying your suggestions in my test environment, here is
> what I have done.
>
> Change the security on the adminSDHolder container so that domain admins
and
> builtin\administrators do not have the following rights
>
> Write
> Modify Permissions
> Modify Owner
>
>
> This appears to work (I've also modified the Default domain controllers
> policy so that only Enterprise admins can take ownership of objects.)
>
> My question now is,  the settings I have changed stop domain admins from
> modifying the domain admins group membership,   what other groups will
these
> settings restrict domain admins from modifying.
>
> Thanks
>
> Lee
>
> "Roger Abell" <mvpNOSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message
> news:%234bTvpzZFHA.3132@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Just after posting I noticed that what you were attempting to modify
does
> > not prevent then from changing the membership of those groups, which
> > was your stated objective.  Those do prevent them from being able to
> > alter the DACL so that they could grant the ability to alter the groups'
> > memberships back to themselves, which is no doubt why you were
> > trying to change these, but you would need to change the other grants
> > for writing, etc. and change the owner.
> >
> > -- 
> > Roger Abell
> > Microsoft MVP (Windows  Security)
> > MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4)  MCDBA
> > "Lee" <lee@nowehere.com> wrote in message
> > news:uz$jJesZFHA.3784@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I would like to stop domain admins from being able to modify the
> > membership
> >> of the domain admins group.
> >>
> >> I have modified the following security on thr domain admins group
> >>
> >> Removed Write permission
> >> Removed Modify permission
> >> Removed modify owner permission
> >>
> >> I have modified the following security on builtin\administrators group
> >>
> >> Removed Write permission
> >> Removed Modify permission
> >> Removed modify owner permission
> >>
> >>
> >> This appears to work fine.
> >>
> >> However, after an hour or so,  all the permissions that I have removed
> > seem
> >> to reappear, I am pretty sure no other domain admin is adding them
back.
> >>
> >> Any ideas ?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Lee
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


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