Re: Renewing Kerberos ticket

From: Herb Martin (news_at_LearnQuick.com)
Date: 03/01/05


Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 00:35:13 -0600

I believe Roger to be correct.

While Kerberos tickets may be renewed, the
users (vendor specific, e.g., Microsoft) security
access token does not get refreshed by the procedure
as far as I know.

-- 
Herb Martin
"Roger Abell" <mvpNOSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message
news:eB6hNciHFHA.560@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> The account must log off and back on.
> There is no other way.  Refreshing a ticket does not
> refresh the user token that is in use.  Only getting a
> new TGT through login authentication does that.
>
> However, there is something that does not make sense in
> what you have said.
> The user runs a script that creates a group and adds themselves
> to the group.  The script then attempts to alter an ACL but are
> denied due to permissions. You say that if their user token
> were refreshed to see the new group and their membership in
> it then they would not be denied.  I do not see how that is so,
> but do see how that seems impossible.
>
> -- 
> Roger Abell
> Microsoft MVP (Windows  Security)
> MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4)  MCDBA
> "Amihai Bareket" <amihai73@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eQGERJiHFHA.3076@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > I'm working with a script that's creating new AD Security groups and
> > changing their membership.
> > The user that runs the script is added as a member of the new groups.
> > Once the groups are created I need the script to create folders and set
> ACL
> > on these folders using the new groups.
> > Because the groups are newly created, the information that indicates
that
> > the logged in user (the one that's running the script) is a member of
the
> > new groups is not included in the Kerberos ticket he's been granted on
> > logon.
> > The permission change on the file system fails because of this with an
> > access denied message (makes sense...). I'm using XCACLS to set the
> > permissions on the new folders.
> >
> > Is there a way to request a renewal to a user's Kerberos ticket from a
> > script or batch so that he will receive a new or renewed ticket with the
> new
> > group information?
> >
> >
> >
>
>


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