Re: User bypasses security

From: Jim Matthews (jjmatthews_at_davtv.com)
Date: 11/17/05

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    Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:32:00 -0600
    
    

    I set up his laptop, using a network share for the source files

    As I mentioned. we just went to XP - on Windows 2000, if not logging into
    the domain, when you reboot you must retype your password, to gain access
    to persistent shares.

    What I have found, with your help, is, that XP allows you to "save" the
    password over restarts. BUT it saves the username too. Disconnecting the
    share does not rfemove the un/password.

    Very interesting

    JM

    "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@nospam-comcast.net> wrote in message
    news:uYdJa4v6FHA.252@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
    > OK. That one seems to catch a lot of us off guard though I don't know how
    > that user got your saved credentials. My guess is that he was a test user
    > account your were using to see how your access policies worked. ---
    > Steve
    >
    >
    > "Jim Matthews" <jmweb@comcast.net> wrote in message
    > news:eYkdf9u6FHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >> Steven - you is da man
    >>
    >> We are new to XP - his laptop was "caching" my credentials, used to set
    >> it
    >> up
    >>
    >> Many Thanks,
    >>
    >> JM
    >> "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@nospam-comcast.net> wrote in message
    >> news:uQbtvZt6FHA.3276@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
    >>> Also keep in mind that if you change group membership of a user that you
    >>> must logoff and logon as the user again to update the user's security
    >> token
    >>> with the correct group membership. The support tool whoami can be used
    >>> as
    >> in
    >>> whoami /groups to show the users group membership for the current
    >>> security
    >>> token. --- Steve
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@nospam-comcast.net> wrote in message
    >>> news:%23g8CFTt6FHA.2176@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    >>> > Jim.
    >>> >
    >>> > When he is connected to the share go to Computer Management/Shared
    >>> > Folders - sessions to see as what user he is connected to the folder
    >>> > as
    >>> > and it should also show the source computer. Type 3 logon events would
    >>> > also be generated in the security log of the server for the user
    >> accessing
    >>> > the share if auditing of logon events is enabled. If the user is
    >>> > different than what you expect then he may be accessing the share with
    >>> > credentials other than his own. Windows XP can use "stored
    >>> > credentials"
    >>> > [see link below]to access a server or share though I have no idea how
    >>> > he
    >>> > would have access to your credentials unless you logged on as that
    >> account
    >>> > one time and configured stored credentials. Try having that user logon
    >> to
    >>> > another computer to see if he still can gain access. Also double check
    >> the
    >>> > user's group membership to make sure it is what you expect --- Steve
    >>> >
    >>> >
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prdp_log_vkxx.asp
    >>> >
    >>> > "Jim Matthews" <jmweb@comcast.net> wrote in message
    >>> > news:OfeFP6s6FHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >>> >> Sorry - he can look at any share and open any file he wishes
    >>> >>
    >>> >> For example, I have a folder in which I keep confidential info. The
    >> only
    >>> >> share and security permissions on it are me - as Domain Admin and as
    >>> >> a
    >>> >> user.
    >>> >>
    >>> >> He can simply go to Start-->Run and type \\servername and he is shown
    >>> >> a
    >>> >> list
    >>> >> of all shares. If he clicks on my share, he is given access to it all
    >>> >>
    >>> >> I have no idea whether he can log on to the server console
    >>> >>
    >>> >> Thanks for your help
    >>> >>
    >>> >> JM
    >>> >>
    >>> >> "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@nospam-comcast.net> wrote in message
    >>> >> news:%23XokZ1s6FHA.3648@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    >>> >>> Define more specifically what you mean by everything with some
    >> examples.
    >>> >> Can
    >>> >>> he logon to the domain controller console? Can he access it's
    >>> >>> security
    >>> >> logs
    >>> >>> via Event Viewer? --- Steve
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>> "Jim Matthews" <jmweb@comcast.net> wrote in message
    >>> >>> news:eJ6fdvs6FHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
    >>> >>> > My setup (partially) a W2K Server (DC) which houses AD, and files,
    >> and
    >>> >>> > a
    >>> >>> > W2K3 Server which houses Exchange and files.
    >>> >>> >
    >>> >>> > I set up a new user (without admin rights) and he has access to
    >>> >>> > _everything_
    >>> >>> > on the W2k Server, but is ''restricted" normally on the W2K3
    >>> >>> > server.
    >>> >>> >
    >>> >>> > He is not a member of any admin group or anything like that. I
    >>> >>> > have
    >>> >>> > checked
    >>> >>> > and rechecked the permissions on several restricted folders.
    >>> >>> >
    >>> >>> > He is running XP Pro
    >>> >>> >
    >>> >>> > I assume that because he is restricted on the W2K3 server that his
    >>> >>> > "permissions" are correct, but there is something amiss on the one
    >>> >> server
    >>> >>> >
    >>> >>> > Can anyone shed some light on this ?
    >>> >>> >
    >>> >>> > Many Thanks
    >>> >>> >
    >>> >>> > JM
    >>> >>> >
    >>> >>> >
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>
    >>> >>
    >>> >
    >>> >
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >


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