Re: USERS group has the ability to change security permissions???

From: Silly (Silly_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 05/07/05

  • Next message: Roger Abell: "Re: USERS group has the ability to change security permissions???"
    Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 15:26:01 -0700
    
    

    Okay, here are the steps:
    - clean install of windows 2000 professional (standalone)
    - reconfigure default everyone's permissions to those posted previously >
    restart
    - install all security updates through windows update
    - create a user JohnDoe with password "password" and user JaneDoe without
    password
    - restart > login using both users
    RESULTS: permissions work as they are supposed too! PHEW!!!

    So, I setup another machine and load the image that is currently run on so
    many computers here, just to see if it's something related to the image that
    I might have missed, the RESULT: user level access can change NTFS
    permissions when they right click on local hard disks > properties > security.

    THIS IS HOW I CREATED THE IMAGE FOR MASS DEPLOYMENT
    - Same steps as I wrote above with a user "Public" without password for
    general access
    - all required applications were installed and tested OK
    - ran Sysprep, leaving every settings in Sysprep as default (meaning I just
    clicked on Sysprep and let it go throught whatever processes that it needed
    to go through, and then the computer is automatically shut down).
    - booted system with Norton Ghost 2003 to create an image
    - when done, rolled the image out to the other computers, went through
    simple initial setup steps (i.e. Name, company, computer name, etc.)
    - login with user "Public" and this user is able to change the NTFS
    permissions.

    I don't know where I got it wrong, if anyone has done the image with Norton
    Ghost 2003 and had everything works fine, could you please show the way?
    thanks!

    "Steven L Umbach" wrote:

    > I would be interested in the results on a clean machine. I would also verify
    > that the user is indeed not a local administrator which can be easily done
    > with the " net user username " command on the local computer. Another thing
    > I would consider doing on a computer where a user is doing such is enabling
    > auditing of object access and then auditing that folders in question for
    > just "change permission" to see if the user name that is changing the
    > permission is indeed who you think they are - IE not using other credentials
    > by viewing object access events in the security log though that is not a
    > real user friendly procedure the info is usually there. Users that have
    > physical access to a computer can easily use utilities to make themselves
    > local administrators if steps are not taken to disallow them to boot from
    > floppy, cdrom, etc. Often when confronted about how they are able to do
    > tasks that only administrators can do they act stupid rather than admit they
    > hacked the computer. --- Steve
    >
    > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301640


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