Re: Why Are "Permission Entries" changed

From: Ken Winters (kwinters_at_olympus.net)
Date: 03/09/05 

Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 10:50:41 -0800

While I appreciate your effort, merely asserting something I've already
tried will work doesn't change the fact that it doesn't. There is something
more to it.

The security settings on the folder make no difference on what happens when
the Access Repair/Compact is performed.
Thanks anyways.

Any other thoughts? Ideas?

"Roger Abell [MVP]" <mvpNoSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message
news:%23LDQt7GJFHA.3812@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> The answer, explaination, and work-around by defining a dedicated
> folder to hold the mdb with the permissions needed set on the folder
> are all correct.
>
> --
> Roger Abell
> Microsoft MVP (Windows Server System: Security)
> MCDBA, MCSE W2k3+W2k+Nt4
> "Ken Winters" <kwinters@olympus.net> wrote in message
> news:112srgfmngp6b50@corp.supernews.com...
>>I am setting the permissions on the actual database file, but your answer
>>isn't the case (it was one of my first thoughts too). I can create a new
>>database in the same folder (which has "Everyone" on it's access list),
>>open, edit, and save that database repeatedly. "Everyone" remains on it's
>>access list. But as soon as I run the MS Access Repair/Compact utility it
>>removes "Everyone" (along with any other non-Administrator users) from the
>>access list.
>>
>> I agree that there's an underlying bug, but I don't have the opportunity
>> to deal with that. I'm simply trying to provide some end users with the
>> ability to repair/compact the database without making them also manually
>> add "Everyone" back to the access list.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ken
>>
>> "Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
>> news:d0lo7m$k2p$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> If you are setting the permissions on the actual database file then the
>>> answer is obvious.
>>>
>>> The compression routine works like follows (well, this is how it should
>>> work):
>>>
>>> MDB ==> Compressed MDB
>>> MDB ==> renamed temp file (.BAK usually)
>>> Compressed MDB ==> renamed to original MDB
>>> The reason for this convoluted approach is that the MDB file does not
>>> get deleted until there is a known good compressed file in existance -
>>> if the process fails, it just leaves the original MDB file in place.
>>>
>>> If you indicate you want to keep the backup (depends on the utility)
>>> then the .BAK stays and will have the permissions you have set.
>>>
>>> Since the new MDB was created from scratch during the first step, it
>>> inherits its permissions from the file store container it is in.
>>>
>>> The solution is simple: grant the permissions to the containing folder.
>>> If you are hesitent to do this because of what else is contained in the
>>> folder, then move the MDB file to a dedicated folder and set the
>>> permissions on it.
>>>
>>> Personally, I would raise this as a bug with the software vendors as NO
>>> software should require the EVERYONE group to have permissions to
>>> anything (IMHO).
>>>
>>> - Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Ken Winters" <kwinters@olympus.net> wrote in message
>>> news:112sjjknte15819@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>I have an application that requires username "Everyone" to be granted
>>>>permission for a MS Access database file. But everytime I run the MS
>>>>Access Repair/Compact tool (to eliminate database corruption and free up
>>>>space) username "Everyone" is removed from the "Permission Entries" list
>>>>for the database file.
>>>>
>>>> Why? And how can I configure the security on that database file so
>>>> this doesn't happen?
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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