Re: Security Breach in AD! Help!
From: Todd (Todd_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 02/08/05
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 11:57:02 -0800
I have a question regarding Restricted Groups...
I am trying to make the changes that I've set for Restricted Groups to be as
close to real time as possible. We had another user created today and in
about 5 minutes the user was removed from the built in admin group. I have
changed the default domain policy, the default domain controller policy, and
the local machine policy all to reflect the following changes trying to make
this a real time restriction:
I have enabled the... refresh interval for computers to 0, refresh interval
for domain controllers to 0 for the computer policies
as well as the refresh interval for users to 0 for the user policies.
I obviously do not know what I am doing since I don't know what Group policy
to apply and on what interface to get my desired results.
Please help!
thanks
Todd
"Steven L Umbach" wrote:
> For the domain check the membership of the administrators group, the domain
> admins, and enterprise admins groups. Make sure it is what it is supposed to
> be and if there are any non default groups as members of these groups
> evaluate why they are there and check their memberships. Reset the passwords
> on every user account [ including yours and your bosses] in any of those
> groups. Make sure you are using hard to guess passwords. Also enable
> auditing of account logon for success and failure and account management for
> success and failure in Domain Controller Security Policy. Auditing of
> account management will tell you if group membership has been changed [by
> normal means] and by who. You can also look and see when any user has logged
> onto the domain and from what computer. Be sure to increase the size of your
> security logs quite a bit to sat at least 10mb. You can use the filter view
> in Event Viewer or Event Comb to narrow searches.
>
> Check all of your GPO's at the domain and domain controller level to see if
> "restricted groups" is configured in a way that could cause such a problem
> and also check for any GPO that can apply to domain controllers and Local
> Security Policy of each for any startup scripts that may be used to add
> accounts to admins/domain admins admins group. Gpresult /v on the domain
> controllers can help you do such. Also check Scheduled Tasks and the AT
> command on each domain controller for anything unusual. If you are using a
> domain account that is in the administrators/domain admins group for any
> service authentication in the domain, that accounts passwords is easily
> recovered from any domain computer using that account, so check out that as
> a possibility.
>
> Your domain controller must be physically secured to some degree or someone
> could obtain passwords from them. If nothing else a sturdy locking case that
> blocks access to the drives must be used. Configure the cmos of your domain
> controllers to boot only from the system drive and password protect the cmos
> settings. Also disable USB on the domain controllers in cmos if not needed.
> Another possibility is that your passwords are being captured by keyboard
> loggers installed on computers that you use. These can be hardware plugged
> into the back of the computer keyboard port or in the keyboard cable, or
> installed as software. Some programs such as Pest Patrol do a pretty good
> job of checking for software keyboard loggers. The Microsoft Spyware program
> will check for many also. Be VERY careful on what computers you use domain
> admin credentials on. Spy cameras are another way to try and capture user
> credentials. Note that telnet connections may be in clear text and ftp
> connections will be in clear text so be careful when you use admin
> credentials.
>
> I would also examine the domain controllers very carefully and do full
> malware scans with at least two different products. Trend Micro has the free
> Sysclean package which I would use also along with it's matching pattern
> file. Use the free tools from SysInternals - TCPView, Autoruns, and Process
> Explorer to examine port usage and process usage on your domain controllers.
> Be extremely suspicious of any remote control software, processes that map
> to an executable that does not have a publisher name associated with it, and
> any process that is not related to anything that should be running on the
> domain controller [which can be hard to do if you do not have a known clean
> like install to compare to]. Check for root kits by using Plist from
> SysInternals to compare the processes running locally to those when you
> check processes running from a remote computer. Also run the Microsoft
> Baseline Security Analyzer on your domain controllers to check for basic
> vulnerabilities including unneeded services and missing critical updates.
> That should give you a start. The links below should help. --- Steve
>
> http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml -- Link to
> SysInterals Process Explorer and other utilities.
> http://www.trendmicro.com/download/dcs.asp
> http://www.trendmicro.com/download/pattern.asp
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/tools/mbsahome.mspx
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bestprac/bpent/sec3/monito.mspx
>
> "Todd" <Todd@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:10C4CF0D-C6FB-4678-AFBC-D8DBDEB97003@microsoft.com...
> > Hello, my name is Todd and I am an MCP (almost an MCSA-2003) working for a
> > Computer Consulting business. One of our clients (our biggest one) has AD
> > running and we have had a heck of a time figuring out this problem:
> > The only 2 people with administrative permissions on the entire domain
> > is
> > my boss (owner of company) and myself. However, we keep finding new users
> > that are being created and are being assigned to the built in
> > administrators
> > group, giving them admin permissions. There appears to be no way to stop
> > them. We have changed our Administrator account psw (although I don't
> > think
> > this would have helped anyway as the accounts that are being created have
> > admin rights...they don't need our account). We have removed all spyware
> > /
> > adware and have run virus scans galore (although we periodically still
> > have
> > to remove them from the system...even in the past couple of weeks). The
> > only
> > ports open are those we are using...it seems to be a secure environment
> > with
> > the exception of the ghost administrator running around. We have tried
> > deleting the accounts from the default admin group and have disabled the
> > accounts. They either reappear after being deleted in a few days or when
> > we
> > disable the accounts they return with different names like "1" "2" "skip0"
> > and "***".
> >
> > Has anyone ever heard of a similar problem or hack that we could look for
> > that would allow someone without admin rights (or by using a system
> > account
> > with those rights) to create admin accounts?
> >
> > I know this is a complicated one, but this has been going on for over 2
> > months and we need help!
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Todd
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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