Re: Is every user a member of Users?

From: Herb Martin (news_at_LearnQuick.com)
Date: 01/05/05


Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 22:20:33 -0600


"Les Desser" <NewsDump1@dessergroup.com> wrote in message
news:xve6beFmVw2BFAas@dessergroup.onetel.co.uk...
> In article <uDy$s7l8EHA.1228@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>, Herb Martin
> <news@LearnQuick.com> Tue, 4 Jan 2005 07:02:08 writes
>
> >E.g., if GroupA includes GroupB, then the members of GroupB are
> >effectively members of GroupA.
>
> I vote that groups should not be able to include other groups :)

Then you will hate NATIVE mode where they can be
arbitrarily nested, e.g., Global in Global ... in Universal
in Universal ... in Local ....

> I did write that rather tongue-in-cheek and from a standpoint of someone
> who is a starter in the area of Windows security, but on further
> reflection it has merit.

It is a practical necessity for large domains, but make
managing even a few hundred users much easier if
you design the structure well.

> There is a lot to be said for transparency and
> once you embed groups within groups one starts to lose the picture
> rather fast.

This probably stems from not setting up the groups
to follow a well-thought out picture -- design -- to
start.

Local groups REALLY represent "a collection of
resources/permissions and/or set of rights for doing
some job" while Global groups really should be
the ones that represent "a bunch of users who should
be given some privelege the same way."

None fo the books tell you that -- most authors
(and therefore admins) continue to think of Local
groups are primarily representing USERS instead
of a set of resources.



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