Re: Does eliminating NetBios kill NTLMv2?

From: Steven L Umbach (n9rou_at_n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net)
Date: 11/05/04 

Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 22:53:49 GMT

Hmm. I bet you mean dns does not use broadcasts. --- Steve

"Miha Pihler" <mihap-news@atlantis.si> wrote in message
news:ujY6$G4wEHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
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> TCP/IP doesn't use broadcasts. It will
> use direct TCP/IP connection to computer and protocol design will allow
> for
> smaller timeout periods. This will make it faster on LAN (e.g. when
> browsing
> for shares, ...)
>
> Mike
>
> "Jacques Koorts" <jkoorts@ccalimited.com> wrote in message
> news:10onrinitpc4ued@corp.supernews.com...
>> Read this in Mark Minasi's articles.
>>
>> <quote>I guess that's why shutting down NetBIOS made things faster, as
>> eliminating
>> NetBIOS kills LM, NTLM, and NTLMv2.</quote>
>>
>> So if you disable Netbios on your computer, your computer will use
>> Kerberos?
>> What Osses support Kerberos? Is this all auto?
>>
>> Here some more from the Article.
>>
>> <quote> personally think that the LM "hole" is one that Microsoft should
>> have
>> plugged a long time ago through their defaults, but they haven't,
>> probably
>> because so many clients use Wintendo boxes. With hope we'll see LM just
>> a
>> bad memory soon, though. I urge you to seriously consider rolling out
>> this
>> change and let me close this by offering an performance incentive to go
>> "all
>> NTLMv2:" logons are faster. If you've ever read my pieces on how much
>> faster NET USE commands become when you shut off NetBIOS, then you
>> probably
>> wondered why they got so much faster. I never knew either, but since
>> shutting off NTLM and LM, I've noticed much, much snappier response from
>> my
>> NET USE commands. I still don't know why, but now I've got a guess:
>> getting rid of NTLM and LM just plain simplified the logon process. As
>> the
>> clients and servers have fewer options, things just happen more quickly.
>> I
>> guess that's why shutting down NetBIOS made things faster, as eliminating
>> NetBIOS kills LM, NTLM, and NTLMv2.</quote>
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