Re: Help Microsoft define the next Windows Certificate Server

From: rusga (reply2newsgroup_at_nntp)
Date: 09/29/04 

Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:35:57 +0100

... Am I blue? Not quite. There are many colors in the rainbow. Red is one.

Regards,
rusga

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:22:30 +0100, rusga <reply2newsgroup@nntp> wrote:

> Vanguardx,
>
> Maybe MS applied SP4 on their servers and MS nntp service (that ships as
> part of IIS on Win2ks) was gone (puff) like mine (and my organization's)
> when I applied the same SP... The reason for this, as MS stated in their
> site, was that it was a beta release, and so, not needed! (using some
> other fancy words).
>
> Needless to say that most of the organization's workflow (the droped
> one) was using MS nntp service until that SP was applied.
>
> Also needless to say is that it was not stated in the software
> installation procedure that it was a beta release appart from that usual
> EULA that states "... bla bla this software *AS IS*" (pls note: not *AS
> WAS*!) before one opens the product.
>
> I still don't know quite well how to face this since I still apply SPs
> and patches on a stated "finished product release".
>
> Maybe SP5 (if ever) will wipe out the entire win2ks?
>
> Regards,
> rusga
>
> PS: All legal and contractual MS software and SP cds.
>
>
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 03:46:33 -0500, Vanguardx <see_signature> wrote:
>
>> "Fei Chua" <feichua@hotmail.com>
>> wrote in news:6f29d792.0409292234.4d109294@posting.google.com:
>>> Hi, I am a Program Manager with the Microsoft PKI team focusing on the
>> <snip>
>>> ... Please send your list of features request
>>> to feichua@nospamplease.microsoft.com. Note: you will need to remove
>>> the "nospamplease." from the e-mail address before sending. ...
>> <snip>
>>
>> One, why would a Microsoft employee that is submitting a post related
>> to their employment be posting through Google Groups (as shown in the
>> PATH header) rather than through Microsoft's own NNTP server?
>>
>> Two, Microsoft doesn't provide sufficient spam filtering to allow you
>> to use an unmunged e-mail address? Doesn't bode well for Microsoft if
>> even they can't figure out how to filter out the spam.
>>
>> Three, why would a Microsoft employee be specifying a Hotmail e-mail
>> address in the From header of their post? You post with an unmunged
>> Hotmail e-mail address but want replies sent to a munged microsoft.com
>> e-mail address.
>>
>> Four, the NNTP-Posting-Host shows you sent your post from a cable
>> account at Comcast (24.17.196.233 =
>> c-24-17-196-233.client.comcast.net). Microsoft has suddenly required
>> their employees to make public announcements from their home cable
>> accounts?
>>
>> So we have someone claiming to be a Microsoft representative who posts
>> through Google (instead of using Microsoft's own news server) from a
>> Comcast cable account who used a Hotmail account to register for a
>> Google Groups account and wants replies sent to a munged e-mail address
>> at Microsoft because they must not be capable of handling the spam and
>> virally-ladden e-mails that might arrive due to posting in newsgroups.
>>
>

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