Re: MS Update - Admin Only
From: ClareOldie (ClareOldie_at_nowhere.ie)
Date: 02/13/04
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 11:21:41 -0000
Just a last bit of info Steve before we finish this.
I checked the renamed account with "net user username" and it reported back
properly.
I guess 2K doesn't like a username with a space in it.
It would be interesting for someone else to set up a like account and check,
don't you think?
Good luck and thanks
Seán
Steven L Umbach wrote:
> Yeah, that is what I meant that the account logon name is in the
> administrators group. I usually check by using " net user username "
> also. You got a lot of stuff going there with ipsec and a software
> firewall. Nothing wrong with extra layers of security as long as they
> all work in harmony and you remember what does what. The SPI router
> will be a good investment. I like a perimiter device when using
> cable/dsl access. --- Steve
>
>
> "ClareOldie" <ClareOldie@nowhere.ie> wrote in message
> news:eKoVjVU8DHA.3880@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> The group membership is the administrators group - that is what you
>> meant?
>>
>> Thats good news on the Docs&Settings - unique id.
>>
>> I should have remembered what SurinGuard does - duh
>>
>> I use Outpost as software firewall but have (I hope) the machine's
>> listening processes blocked with an IPSec policy ( except Kerberos?
>> ). I seem to remember some time ago checking on the GRC site without
>> the firwall running and coming up clean.But with all the patches
>> since I guess there could be something 'open' again. I have a router
>> ordered, NAT & SPI, so soon I will have another layer in place.
>> The difficulty with all these 'layers of security' is that when
>> something like this update thing happens its hard to tell whats
>> stopping it <g> Thanks
>>
>> Seán
>> ******************************************
>>
>> Steven Umbach wrote:
>>> Glad you figured it out. That is strange that the admin account
>>> would not let you do the account name change - it should, I would
>>> double check the group membership of that account. I don't think
>>> that the documents and settings folder will be a problem, the
>>> computer tracks all users and groups by a unique sid number. As far
>>> a SurfinGuard I should have suggested that you try booting into
>>> safemode with networking while you had the problem. The reason is
>>> that most applications and services are not started in safe mode
>>> and you could troubleshoot from there. However never do that if you
>>> rely on a software firewall only to protect your computer because
>>> it will be disabled also in safe mode with networking. --- Steve
>>>
>>> "ClareOldie" <ClareOldie@nowhere.ie> wrote in message
>>> news:e1sMA$M8DHA.2524@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi There Steve,
>>>> thanks for that. Change done. I tried at
>>>> first to do it from admin account but it wouldn't let me but it
>>>> took from the account itself.
>>>> Strange thing is the folder in Docs & Settings did not change its
>>>> name. I appear to be using the folder with the old name. I wonder
>>>> if this will cause some problems in the future.
>>>> I finally found the culprit that was blocking my updates -
>>>> SurfinGuard Pro. This is such a great programme that I had
>>>> forgotten it. It has saved me on many occasion but this time it
>>>> interfered. Thanks again for the help.
>>>> Seán
>>>>
>>>> Steven Umbach wrote:
>>>>> Hi Sean.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right click My Computer and select manage which will bring up
>>>>> Computer Management where you will go to local users and groups.
>>>>> Find the
>>>>> account, open it and change the name. That's all there is to it
>>>>> and it will still have same access, group membership. --- Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "ClareOldie" <ClareOldie@nowhere.ie> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OYVmusI8DHA.488@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Steven,
>>>>>> thanks for the suggestions for the computer, all of
>>>>>> which are in situ and have been for some time, plus Adaware.
>>>>>> One last question before I leave this:
>>>>>> What is the best method of changing the logon name while ensuring
>>>>>> that all of the settings for that account remain untouched. It's
>>>>>> just I have never done this so I would like to make sure I don't
>>>>>> mess things up.
>>>>>> Seán
>>>>>> **********************************
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steven L Umbach wrote:
>>>>>>> I have never used an account with a space in the logon name -
>>>>>>> try an underscore_ between the two words or quotes around it
>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>> Well
>>>>>>> you seem to indicate that your administrator accounts work fine
>>>>>>> except for Update. I really don't know the reason for that and
>>>>>>> it may
>>>>>>> be Internet Explorer related. Try at least clearing your
>>>>>>> temporary internet files and I would try adding Microsoft.com
>>>>>>> to your
>>>>>>> trusted
>>>>>>> web content zone and setting the security to medium to see what
>>>>>>> happens and running SpyBot Search and Destroy on your computer
>>>>>>> to check for parasites. There is a newsgroup dedicated to
>>>>>>> Windows Update where you may also want to post. --- Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;174360
>>>>>>> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm# --- SpyBot available
>>>>>>> in this link and other good info.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "ClareOldie" <ClareOldie@nowhere.ie> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:u7CZ3S97DHA.3420@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Sorry Steven I was a bit frustrated when I posted last!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I got details for all accounts except one which gave the
>>>>>>>> message "More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 2221"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This tells me it is an unknown username. I can log on with this
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> some part of Windows knows the name!
>>>>>>>> This happens on one account only - which has admin privelages.
>>>>>>>> The only difference with this one is that the loggon name is
>>>>>>>> two words with a space between. Maybe this is the problem?
>>>>>>>> I get similar results to yours for the other accounts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regardless of which account I use - administrator or one within
>>>>>>>> the administrator group - none will allow autoupdate. I get the
>>>>>>>> same "Administrators Only" message.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes I have, as far as I can tell, full admin rights in these
>>>>>>>> accounts - changing passwords and other admin settings etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks again for your help
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Seán
>>>>>>>> ***************************************
>>>>>>>> Steven L Umbach wrote:
>>>>>>>>> What do you mean it gave you nothing?? Can you do other
>>>>>>>>> administrative duties like change your tcp/ip settings?? Auto
>>>>>>>>> update can download and install updates without admin
>>>>>>>>> credentials
>>>>>>>>> if you do it by schedule. Below is what I get when I do net
>>>>>>>>> use administrator on my computer to show what you should be
>>>>>>>>> seeing [while logged on as an administrator]. --- Steve
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>net user administrator
>>>>>>>>> User name Administrator
>>>>>>>>> Full Name
>>>>>>>>> Comment Built-in account for
>>>>>>>>> administering the computer/dom
>>>>>>>>> ain
>>>>>>>>> User's comment
>>>>>>>>> Country code 000 (System Default)
>>>>>>>>> Account active Yes
>>>>>>>>> Account expires Never
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Password last set 2/1/2004 3:23 PM
>>>>>>>>> Password expires Never
>>>>>>>>> Password changeable 2/1/2004 3:23 PM
>>>>>>>>> Password required Yes
>>>>>>>>> User may change password Yes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Workstations allowed All
>>>>>>>>> Logon script
>>>>>>>>> User profile
>>>>>>>>> Home directory
>>>>>>>>> Last logon 2/9/2004 11:16 AM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Logon hours allowed All
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Local Group Memberships *Administrators
>>>>>>>>> Global Group memberships *Group Policy Creator *Domain
>>>>>>>>> Users *Schema Admins
>>>>>>>>> *Domain
>>>>>>>>> Admins
>>>>>>>>> *Enterprise Admins
>>>>>>>>> The command completed successfully.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "ClareOldie" <ClareOldie@nowhere.ie> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:%23$1JLSz7DHA.2088@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Steven Umbach wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Double check that you are indeed an administrator. You can
>>>>>>>>>>> run "
>>>>>>>>>>> net user username" at the command prompt where you
>>>>>>>>>>> substitute your logon name for username and see if you are
>>>>>>>>>>> in the local administrators group. --- Steve
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have checked the users profiles in control panel and I am a
>>>>>>>>>> member of the administrators group. I also am the
>>>>>>>>>> "administrator"
>>>>>>>>>> for log
>>>>>>>>>> on. The strange thing is your suggestion gives me nothing for
>>>>>>>>>> this account.
>>>>>>>>>> Any idea why?
>>>>>>>>>> To go back to the original problem I tried doing the updates
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> the administrators account as well as using run-as from this
>>>>>>>>>> account and another. Nothing doing from any of these.
>>>>>>>>>> BUT when I activated the auto update feature it downloaded
>>>>>>>>>> and installed some ten updates without a problem.
>>>>>>>>>> Any further suggestions?
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Seán
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "ClareOldie" <ClareOldie@nowhere.ie> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23$jSOlY7DHA.3432@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Whenever I try to do an update the MS page tells me I must
>>>>>>>>>>>> be an administrator.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am - no one else uses this computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What setting might I have missed that would cause this
>>>>>>>>>>>> response? Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Seán
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