Re: EVERYONE removed from security - system will not boot

From: Steven L Umbach (sumbach_at_nospam-ameritech.net)
Date: 01/13/04 

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:10:20 GMT

It's very hard to say for sure without seeing it. I am surprised you are
having a problem with upgrade install and parallel installation as I don't
think what you did would should cause all those problems with copying the
files. As I said it could be a problem with the install cdrom, the cdrom
drive, or even something else. Sometimes a cd drive has a problem with a
particular cd disk - I have seen a lot of odd things. Like I said, my next
plan of attack would be to put the drive into another computer to see what
is found with the goal of getting the data files. Also if the laptop has any
built in virus protection in the cmos, be sure to disable it before
attempting any installation. --- Steve

"Thomas" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0a5701c3d9e6$3a65c740$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> Steve,
>
> I may have a problem with the HD.....if I do it was a
> sudden crash. But, the laptop continuously ran Norton
> WinDr. and there was no problem...and I am fairly rigorous
> about doing drive scans and defrags.
>
> Let me explain how this whole thing got started more
> clearly to see if this changes your mind.
>
> I have a network at home with two Win2000 laptops and a
> Win ME desktop. I was using laptop #2 and logged onto
> laptop #1 via the network. I then right clicked on the C
> drive of laptop #1, selected properties, and then selected
> the security tab. I highlighted EVERYONE and then clicked
> Remove (there were no other users). I did get an error
> message about this would not allow anyone to access the
> drive.....but I went ahead anyway (I was watching a
> football game and not paying attention!). I later went
> over to laptop #1 and shut it down. When I attempted to
> power it back up right then......the problems started. I
> got a blue screen and a Fatal Stop error message.
>
> I know....real dumb!
>
> I think I can run chdsk from the recovery console.....I
> will give that a try.
>
> If you have any additional suggestions.......please pass
> them along!
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Tom
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Ouch. It sounds like you have a problem with your hard
> drive if it can not copy the
> >files, unless there is a problem with your cdrom or the
> install disk itself. Your
> >laptop may have built in diagnostics you can try. The
> hard drive may be physically
> >OK, but needs a format. Unfortunately you have only one
> partition. I doubt Microsoft
> >could help much on this one. If it was my computer and I
> wanted that data what I
> >would do is put the drive in another computer running
> Windows 2000/XP Pro, to try and
> >access the data possibly running Check Disk on it to
> check for corruption, which you
> >can also do from Recovery Console also if you can gain
> access. There are inexpensive
> >adapters to allow laptop hard drives to be installed into
> a desktop and of course the
> >drives will need to be configured appropriately as
> master/slave or cable select. If
> >you do try to recover data from another computer, you may
> need to go to Computer
> >Management/disk management/properties for that drive to
> initialize [not format] the
> >drive if W2K does not recognize it. If your data is
> valuable and you have exhausted
> >all possibilities at your end, you may try to use a data
> recovery specialist though
> >they may not be cheap but probably will give you an
> estimate. Good luck. --- Steve
> >
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> ViewItem&item=3451879115&category=26266 --- laptop
> >IDE adapter.
> >http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HD-108 ---
> another one.
> >
> >
> >"Thomas" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> >news:008301c3d98d$6ce578e0$a001280a@phx.gbl...
> >> Steve,
> >>
> >> I just tried the parallel install into a NEW directory.
> >> It didn't work. I followed K.B. article 266465 to the
> >> letter. I got to step #7 and typed in a new folder name
> >> (\winnt2) and started the install. I got the same error
> >> messages (THOUSANDS of them) as before: "setup cannot
> copy
> >> the file: xxxxx.xxx". The first file name was
> >> _default.pif and then 0401.csv, 0404.csv, 0405.csv and
> on
> >> and on and on. I finally cancelled the install.
> >>
> >> Now what?
> >>
> >> Do you think it is time to spend the $245 and call
> >> Microsoft?
> >>
> >> If you have other suggestions, I'm also willing to try
> >> more.
> >>
> >> Thanks again,
> >>
> >> Tom
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >You can try fast repair even if you have no ERD,
> however
> >> since an installation was
> >> >not found it would not help. You did the right thing by
> >> not proceeding if you are not
> >> >sure. You have a couple options left. You could do a
> >> parallel installation of Windows
> >> >2000 by installing another copy - preferably on another
> >> partition if possible but NOT
> >> >into existing \winnt folder. If it is successful you
> will
> >> be able to boot into the
> >> >new install and have access to your data files, though
> >> you may need to take
> >> >"ownership" of them first as an administrator so that
> you
> >> can change permission to
> >> >give yourself access. If you have another computer [or
> a
> >> friend] running Windows 2000
> >> >/XP Pro, you could install your hard drive as a
> >> slave/secondary drive and access your
> >> >files from the operating system that way. Finally you
> >> could reinstall W2K into the
> >> >existing \winnt folder if it is detected during the
> >> install process, but not
> >> >formatting. If you try that, your data and profile
> should
> >> be safe, but you would have
> >> >to reinstall all applications on top of themselves,
> >> install service pack/critical
> >> >updates, and retrieve date from your old profile since
> a
> >> new one would be created
> >> >with the installation. --- Steve
> >> >
> >> >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
> >> scid=kb;ko;266465
> >> >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
> >> us;308421 --- same for w2K
> >> >
> >> >"THOMAS" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message
> >> >news:083801c3d974$25e7fc60$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> Dear Steve,
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. I tried the fast repair option. However, the
> system
> >> >> cannot find an existing installation of Win2000. I
> do
> >> not
> >> >> have an Emerg Repair Disk.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2. I followed 292175 and I'm certain I did this once
> >> >> before. Anyway, I was concerned about the following
> >> >> message in Step #4 "Setup should now detect your
> >> >> installation. NOTE: If the Setup program does not
> >> detect a
> >> >> previous installation but just continues to the
> >> >> partitioning screen, there is a problem. An in-place
> >> >> upgrade may not be possible." I'm not sure if this
> >> >> happened or not. Setup detected a "possible"
> >> installation
> >> >> in C:\winnt and warned that "ALL files would be
> >> >> overwritten......including C:\My Documents". I did
> not
> >> >> proceed any further for fear of erasing all my data.
> >> >>
> >> >> Should I proceed to step #5 and ignore the
> message?????
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >You also might want to try a "fast repair"
> first. ---
> >>
> >> >> Steve
> >> >> >
> >> >> >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
> scid=kb;EN-
> >> >> US;238359
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@nospam-comcast.net> wrote
> in
> >> >> message
> >> >> >news:3zpMb.29821$nt4.61068@attbi_s51...
> >> >> >> Do an upgrade install as described in KB link
> below.
> >> >> You will have to visit Windows
> >> >> >> Update to reinstall service pack and critical
> updates
> >> >> however which should not be a
> >> >> >> big deal if you have high speed internet
> access. --
> >> -
> >> >> Steve
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
> scid=kb;en-
> >> >> us;Q306952
> >> >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
> scid=kb;en-
> >> >> us;Q292175
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "THOMAS" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote
> >> in
> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:02e801c3d8c2$4b1c5970$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> > I accidently removed EVERYONE from the C:\
> folder
> >> on
> >> >> my
> >> >> >> > laptop. Now, the system will not boot at all.
> I
> >> >> believe
> >> >> >> > the system now thinks that NO ONE is authorized
> to
> >> >> access
> >> >> >> > my laptop!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I have used the Recovery Console to
> >> repair/reinstall
> >> >> >> > Windows. It did not work. Instead of getting
> the
> >> >> >> > original Fatal Error now all I get is NTLDR is
> >> >> missing.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > HELP!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thank You in advance!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >
>

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