Re: URGENT! Legacy clients logon and connection unstable problem

From: Eric Fleischman [MSFT] (efleis_at_online.microsoft.com)
Date: 06/02/03


Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:07:30 -0500


Ya, I'm going to jump on with Conrad here. Let's take a new direction.....
Some clarification on earlier-mentioned posts: domain functionality level is
a function of your DC's and their OS's, not the clients. I can point
everyone to some documentation if everyone is interested in that.

Back to the issue in question......
This smells of a WINS issue. Can you give us some information about how
WINS is set up in your environment?

Thanks!

~Eric

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Eric Fleischman [MSFT]
Directory Services
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"Conrad Pfleging" <cj@NOSPAMpflpfarm.com> wrote in message
news:O6M33iJKDHA.2052@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> All those distinctions between native and mixed are nice, but what I think
> the poster is trying to say is that he's talking about clients, not DC's.
A
> native mode domain can have pre win2k clients.  It just can't have pre
Win2K
> domain controllers.  Native v. Mixed is really not relevant to the
clients.
> My domain is native mode, and I have several Win 98SE clients with no
> problems.
>
> I know absolutely nothing about SQL so I really can't help him, but I
think
> you all are misunderstanding his situation and letting the native/mixed
> thing lead you in the wrong direction.
>
> "Rumen Yonov" <supervisor@wss-lovech.bg> wrote in message
> news:OPbh7gIKDHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > <<<PLEASE REPLY TO SENDER'S ADDRESS>>>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just migrated from Windows 2000 Server PDC to Windows 2003 Server
> > (Enterprise)
> > I build the domain from scratch - i.e. enter computer & user accounts
> > manualy.
> >
> > It works in Windows 2003 Server functional level - the upper one.
> >
> > I found several disadvantages with shared folders -
> > I think because of new domain identity (in spite of the same NetBIOS
name)
> > and new accounts identities (in spite of the same NetBIOS names)
> > it is impossible to use previous shared permissions -
> > I ReCreated them again on every mashine :-(((
> >
> > I read that it is a must to install DSCLIENT.EXE on every legacy client
> > machine to make possible to logon on to domain.
> > OK - it was done!
> >
> > The MAIN PROBLEM is:
> > Windows 9x clients do NOT enter domain every time - sometime enter
> > but sometime do not (then in logon dialod box do not appear domain
name)!?
> > When I restart the machine - generally logon screen apperars with domain
> > name.
> >
> > BUT THEN FOLLOWS MOST CONFUSE situation:
> > Most of applications when try to make trusted (Windows authenticated)
> > connection to an SQL Server 2000 (SP3) - installed on the same PDC,
> > DO NOT succeed to open connections - BUT It is NOT permanent situation -
> > sometimes the can, sometimes - do not :-(((
> >
> > I found that several minutes after the client machine starts I can
browse
> it
> > from the PDC, if and if only if user can logon the domain!?
> > But when all looks OK, after several minutes and several successful
> > connections, client application is constantly refused from future
> > connections
> > and the only way to get access again to shared resources (SQL Server is
> > only one of problems) on the network -
> > looks like it is not still in the domain!? The machine remains
> unaccessable
> > from PDC, too - when try to access asks for password for \\HOST\IPC$ !?
> >
> > Please help me to solve this problem with legacy clients in the
> > Windows 2003 Server domain. Are there any special features with
> > WINS, DNS and other services configuration?
> >
> > May help to say that LAN is 10MB/s Ethernet BUS topology
> >
> > Thank you in advance for cooperation,
> > Rumen Yonov
> >
> > PS: Please include some directions for MS-DOS 6.2 cleints - I have :-(((
> >
> > <<<PLEASE REPLY TO SENDER'S ADDRESS>>>
> >
> >
> >
>
>


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