Re: Network Hacking

From: sgopus (fredd@hotmail.com)
Date: 02/20/03 

From: "sgopus" <fredd@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:56:31 -0800

Hear hear! I agree wholeheartedly. this is america and
we should teach how to makes things secure, not just react
to the idea. for those who say shame, get a grip and lets
teach for teaching sake. for that admin, he should
certainly take the class, I wouldn't suggest advising the
class to attack a live database however, I would have
thought a class project set up to test exactly like a real
system however. and advise when holes are found.

>-----Original Message-----
>"Rabid_Roach" <no@spam.all> wrote in message
>news:u8m0W0Q2CHA.1748@TK2MSFTNGP12...
>> Only advise I could offer, is that prof needs to be
terminated.
>
>Typical knee-jerk reaction. Universities exist to
provide knowledge and
>experience. This is a practical, real-world experience
that should be
>taught. Why punish the prof (who I _really_ hope has
tenure) just because
>the network administrator may or may not be failing to
perform his/her
>duties wrt a known threat? Usually threats are unknown
until after the
>fact.
>
>> What do the school administrators have to say about it?
>
>I dare not imagine lest I be disappointed.
>
>> I know if I was enrolled there, and a teacher was
helping students to hack
>> the system potentially exposing my personnal
information, I would make a
>> big stink.
>
>I'd make a big stink if the university is churning out
students who know
>more than the network administrator.
>
>> If any personal info is compromised you can bet the
school is setting
>> itself up for one hell of a law suit!
>
>You got that right - if the network admin knows of the
risk and fails to
>take adaquate steps to protect the data (which _really_
isn't that
>difficult) then there is a clear case of gross negligence.
>
>Force the admin to take the course and learn what the
threat model is. Even
>if the class isn't taught any more there will be students
ranging from
>curious to malicious who use the knowledge - which is
readily available out
>there no matter what classes are taught - to exploit the
network.
>
>
>.
>

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