Re: Win2k Pro in NT4.0 Domain Environment

From: Joe Terry (jterry@xmission.com)
Date: 02/20/03


From: "Joe Terry" <jterry@xmission.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:20:14 -0700


If you are starting from scratch, i.e. no domains, PDC's, BDC's, etc. you
could save yourself a great deal of work by just installing a W2K AD
environment from just the administration headaches. It is much easier to
tighten security in an AD environment than an NT 4.0 environment. You could
inform your client of the potential long-term costs of administration.

Joe

"Charles Gregory" <charlesgregory@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:ujGZxjR2CHA.2644@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> I'm being asked to look at the potential of implementing a system
consisting
> of NT 4.0 backend servers (PDC, BDCs, SMS etc..) with Windows 2000
clients.
>
> I know it's not a nice thing to do and that it's against MS
recommendations
> and the loss in functionality I'd get from the lack of group policy.
Believe
> me when I say that I know it'd be much easier, faster, better, consistant
> etc..etc with Win2k backend and AD - but the client is against AD for this
> piece of work.
>
> The system I'm investigating has high security requirements and therefore
> I'd be looking to apply security settings to Win2k Pro using System
> Policies. I've done a little research and have seen a couple of technet
> articles of things that break when you use System Policies in this way -
has
> anyone out there got any experience of using Win2k desktops in NT 4.0
> domains or can point me to some info or forums on the Web?
>
> Basically - I need some hard evidence of why it's such a bad idea.
>
> Help!
>
> Chas
>
>
>
>



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