Re: Age of Mythology game requires admin rights !
From: Jim Nugent (nuge@execpc.com)
Date: 12/19/02
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From: "Jim Nugent" <nuge@execpc.com> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:58:46 -0600
That's the first time I have ever heard of an application that wasn't system
related (like, say, hfnetchk, that flat out stated that only an
administrator could run it. Did MS write the game??? It's the game writer's
fault.
It's possible that they may have just been too lazy to explain what it
needs. Here are some things to try. Go to www.sysinternals.com and get the
free utilities Filemon and Regmon and install them (these must be
installed and run as administrator).
Now log off as administrator, log on as a power user, and using run as
adminitrator option, (e.g. >runas /u:Administrator filemon.exe) or from a
short cut with the Runas property checked, start FileMon. It's a program
that logs all file accesses. There will probably be lots of activity so take
note of the processes that you are not interested in. After youve run it for
a few seconds, stop capture, set the filter to filter out their activity,
and clear the log.
Now, start capture, start your game (as the power user), and try to see what
it is doing ( and hopfully fails) right before you get that message. Perhaps
you'll notice some kind of file access that fails, or get some clue. You may
or may not want to enable permissions on the offending file but at least
you'll know.
Next go through the same routine with Regmon --- same deal except it monitor
registry entries (they have permission too) if it gags reading a certain
registry key, you can evaluate whether you want to open up at least read
permission on it.
Another common mistake programmers make (even good ones) is opening registry
keys (or files) for reading and writing even if they only intend to read the
file. This can cause a failure because a file or key is read-only for that
user.
You might be able to track it down.
But I repeat, from the information given in your post, the very idea of a
GAME that requires Admin to RUN it (installing is another matter...) is
STUPID STUPID STUPID.
-- Jim "Remember, an amateur built the Ark; professionals built the Titanic." "Bob Warren" <bob-warren@veriserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:065801c2a756$6bb27a00$d6f82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA13... > Jim, > > Thanks for responding. > > Upon starting AoM, a message window appears which contains > words to the effect of "You need aministrator priveleges to > run AoM". > > Furthermore, I have since discovered that the readme.rtf > contains the following: > "To install Age of Mythology > 1. Turn on your computer and start Microsoft Windows 98, > Windows Millennium Edition, Windows 2000, or Windows XP. > 2. If you are using Windows 2000 or Windows XP, you must > have administrator privileges in order to install and play > Age of Mythology." > > It seems to be irresponsible on the part of Microsoft to > both require admin privs and to encourage gamers to stop > other running applications such as anti-virus, parental > control, and automated backups. > > Does this mean the majority of 2K and XP users are running > as the default single-user with admin privs? Am I wrong > here or is there something which MS should seriously address? > > >-----Original Message----- > >Did the error message specifically say that to play you > needed admin > >privileges? If not what DID it say? Usually these things > can be corrected, > >and are either an artifact of the fact that the game was > installed by the > >adminitrator or a file permissions problem arising because > the sw doesn't > >understand where Windows 2000 expects a program to store > its files. > > > >What, exactly, did it say? > >-- > >Jim > >"Remember, an amateur built the Ark; professionals built > the Titanic." > > > >"Bob Warren" <bob-warren@veriserve.co.uk> wrote in message > >news:07e001c2a6e6$78b8a190$8df82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA02... > >> All, > >> > >> I have just installed Microsoft's Age of Mythology game on > >> a Windows 2000 SP3 machine for my son to play. > >> > >> I installed and tested the game as administrator. > >> > >> When I login as a user, even as a power user, the game > >> refuses to play because it requires administrator rights. > >> > >> This is insane! It is a game for my son to play. I am > >> reluctant to give my son admin rights because that is only > >> one click away from turning off parental control, virus > >> protection, etc. I trust my son not to do anything > >> stupid or deliberately harmful, but with admin rights I > >> cannot stop him unwittingly causing damage to all users of > >> that machine. > >> > >> Please could as many of you as read this, who might be > >> able to help, advise me on what course of action I should > >> take. Do I complain and to whom? Is there a patch or a > >> special setting that I can use? > >> > >> TIA > >> > >> BobW > >> > >> > > > > > >. > >
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