Thank you

From: jmathes@charter.com
Date: 12/13/02


From: <jmathes@charter.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 07:27:23 -0800


Thanks for the helping out. I was able to connect this
laptop HD to a desktop using a adapter! Imagine that,
laptop HD are all the same 44 pin connection type. after a
few permission head aches and a re-install, all data is
recovered.

once again thanks for the input

JM
>-----Original Message-----
>Wait, wait, I thought of a better idea. Assuming the
problem is the deny
>everyone permissions to the root of C: [and possibly the
windows folder, the
>program files folder, and the documents and settings
folders as well], boot
>to Recovery Console mode and use the CACLS command to
change permissions on
>the root of C: [especially the four or so NT boot files]
and to check the
>permissions on the other folders. If you are denied
access, then you will
>need to use the TAKEOWN command from the Windows resource
kit to try to take
>ownership first. The Win RK is not free [though AFAIK it
comes with
>Technet]. I believe there could be some restrictions by
default on whether
>you are able to copy or execute programs from the floppy
drive, more
>information is at www.microsoft.com/support if you search
for "Recovery
>Console." Hope this helps.
>
>
>"Karl Levinson [x y] mvp" <jamescagney90210@excite.com>
wrote in message
>news:#4fEM7gnCHA.2364@TK2MSFTNGP12...
>> I would suggest purchasing NTFSDOS Pro [read/write] from
>> www.sysinternals.com / www.winternals.com so you can
probably boot from a
>> DOS boot floppy and hopefully open the NTFS file
permissions back up.
>>
>> [The free version is read-only, which isn't enough to
fix the problem
>here.
>> There are also other free and not free utilities at
these URLs and others
>> that are supposed to let you retrieve and maybe
manipulate files from your
>> computer using a serial cable connected to another
computer, don't know if
>> any of these can read NTFS partitions without
purchasing NTFSDOS Pro, but
>> you are welcome to search.]
>>
>> I believe the Everyone group needs read and possibly
also write permission
>> to the root of the C: drive. Also, you should probably
never use "deny"
>for
>> Everyone, since that affects everyone, including
Administrator and
>probably
>> System. I think Windows 2000 even gives you a warning
when you try to do
>> this.
>>
>> Sounds like you need to repair the ACL permissions on
the drive,
>especially
>> the root of the drive [and not repair the boot sector
or MBR]. This can
>be
>> done by moving the hard drive to another computer
running Windows 2000
>> [though this might be tricky on a laptop].
>>
>> You can disable services in Recovery Console, but I
doubt this will help.
>> FYI recovery console is pretty well locked down as far
as reading and
>> copying files, unless you previously use the MMC with
the Group Policy
>snap
>> in [before you encounter a problem] to change a setting
to grant
>additional
>> permissions.
>>
>> Honestly, I can't think of any other ways to fix this
that doesn't involve
>> either moving the drive to another computer. Maybe a
computer repair shop
>> might have some way of accessing that drive? The other
solution is to
>> format and start over with all data lost. [You could
try to retrieve your
>> data by booting to a linux boot CD such as Knoppix and
use or add
>read-only
>> NTFS support for Linux if this is not already built
into the boot CD.
>> Knoppix will hopefully autodetect and access most of
your hardware during
>> bootup. If this fails, you could also try using the
free version of
>NTFSDOS
>> from the above URLs to read the files from your
computer to back them up
>to
>> floppy, to external CDRW, to your network card using
DOS drivers, etc.]
>>
>>
>> "J Mathes" <jmathes@charter.net> wrote in message
>> news:06d701c29dd5$b135c080$d5f82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA12...
>> > Win2k Pro
>> > IBM Stinkpad A30
>> > Set the permissions on the C: drive to deny for the
>> > Everyone group.This is the only group the i have
setup.
>> > when booting, a critacal error occurs before making
it to
>> > the logon(prob cause the permission is set to deny)
this
>> > is true for safe mode also. can boot to a cd, re-
install
>> > and it is UNable to copy ANY files during the install.
>> > now when booting it says that ntldr is missing. copy
>> > ntldr to floppy, use the repair console to do copy
and it
>> > gives a ACCESS IS DENIED on any copy to C: ran chkdsk
and
>> > it appeared to fix something, but no change. fixboot
>> > same. this is on a laptop, so unable to boot to a diff
>> > drive.have NOT tried partion magic. have NOT tried
>> > fixmbr. is there any services that can be turned
off/on
>> > inthe repair console? btw to use the repair console
admin
>> > has to logon, which i can. any thoughts would be
>> > appreciated.
>> >
>> > thanks
>> > J
>> >
>> >
>>
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