Re: Permission set to C:

From: Karl Levinson [x y] mvp (jamescagney90210@excite.com)
Date: 12/07/02


From: "Karl Levinson [x y] mvp" <jamescagney90210@excite.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 16:53:28 -0500


Wait, wait, I thought of a better idea. Assuming the problem is the deny
everyone permissions to the root of C: [and possibly the windows folder, the
program files folder, and the documents and settings folders as well], boot
to Recovery Console mode and use the CACLS command to change permissions on
the root of C: [especially the four or so NT boot files] and to check the
permissions on the other folders. If you are denied access, then you will
need to use the TAKEOWN command from the Windows resource kit to try to take
ownership first. The Win RK is not free [though AFAIK it comes with
Technet]. I believe there could be some restrictions by default on whether
you are able to copy or execute programs from the floppy drive, more
information is at www.microsoft.com/support if you search for "Recovery
Console." Hope this helps.

"Karl Levinson [x y] mvp" <jamescagney90210@excite.com> wrote in message
news:#4fEM7gnCHA.2364@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> I would suggest purchasing NTFSDOS Pro [read/write] from
> www.sysinternals.com / www.winternals.com so you can probably boot from a
> DOS boot floppy and hopefully open the NTFS file permissions back up.
>
> [The free version is read-only, which isn't enough to fix the problem
here.
> There are also other free and not free utilities at these URLs and others
> that are supposed to let you retrieve and maybe manipulate files from your
> computer using a serial cable connected to another computer, don't know if
> any of these can read NTFS partitions without purchasing NTFSDOS Pro, but
> you are welcome to search.]
>
> I believe the Everyone group needs read and possibly also write permission
> to the root of the C: drive. Also, you should probably never use "deny"
for
> Everyone, since that affects everyone, including Administrator and
probably
> System. I think Windows 2000 even gives you a warning when you try to do
> this.
>
> Sounds like you need to repair the ACL permissions on the drive,
especially
> the root of the drive [and not repair the boot sector or MBR]. This can
be
> done by moving the hard drive to another computer running Windows 2000
> [though this might be tricky on a laptop].
>
> You can disable services in Recovery Console, but I doubt this will help.
> FYI recovery console is pretty well locked down as far as reading and
> copying files, unless you previously use the MMC with the Group Policy
snap
> in [before you encounter a problem] to change a setting to grant
additional
> permissions.
>
> Honestly, I can't think of any other ways to fix this that doesn't involve
> either moving the drive to another computer. Maybe a computer repair shop
> might have some way of accessing that drive? The other solution is to
> format and start over with all data lost. [You could try to retrieve your
> data by booting to a linux boot CD such as Knoppix and use or add
read-only
> NTFS support for Linux if this is not already built into the boot CD.
> Knoppix will hopefully autodetect and access most of your hardware during
> bootup. If this fails, you could also try using the free version of
NTFSDOS
> from the above URLs to read the files from your computer to back them up
to
> floppy, to external CDRW, to your network card using DOS drivers, etc.]
>
>
> "J Mathes" <jmathes@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:06d701c29dd5$b135c080$d5f82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA12...
> > Win2k Pro
> > IBM Stinkpad A30
> > Set the permissions on the C: drive to deny for the
> > Everyone group.This is the only group the i have setup.
> > when booting, a critacal error occurs before making it to
> > the logon(prob cause the permission is set to deny) this
> > is true for safe mode also. can boot to a cd, re-install
> > and it is UNable to copy ANY files during the install.
> > now when booting it says that ntldr is missing. copy
> > ntldr to floppy, use the repair console to do copy and it
> > gives a ACCESS IS DENIED on any copy to C: ran chkdsk and
> > it appeared to fix something, but no change. fixboot
> > same. this is on a laptop, so unable to boot to a diff
> > drive.have NOT tried partion magic. have NOT tried
> > fixmbr. is there any services that can be turned off/on
> > inthe repair console? btw to use the repair console admin
> > has to logon, which i can. any thoughts would be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > thanks
> > J
> >
> >
>
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