Re: How to destroy windows 2000 :)

From: Charlie Tame (charlie@tames.net)
Date: 12/02/02 

From: "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net>
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:10:51 -0600

I understand your idea perfectly however...

Is this not an admission of defeat? I mean a big company will promise
security even though there's always a risk. By admitting that this risk
exists are you going to make your product seem less secure than something
else which is probably worse but "Sounds better"?

I can't see a "Quick" way to do this except by trashing the allocation
tables or something. If you don't trash them in a recoverable way then yes,
the drive is (given the likely time the hacker has) virtually useless.
However, if you don't do it in a recoverable way you know what happens next?
The purchaser won't have done a backup for months, and then it's "Your"
system that lost his data. I KNOW you will explain that in detail when he
buys it, but still he will be hoping you can dig him out of the hole.

And if he has been making backups one hope he doesn't keep them in the
drawer under the PC... sigh! 

-- 
Charlie
"MacroMad" <username@email.co.yu> wrote in message
news:ased0l$qm1he$1@ID-131597.news.dfncis.de...
> I'm laughing my ass off :D
>
> 1. I'm not from Germany
> 2. If I wanted to hide my self I wouldn't send post to public microsoft
> group (eg there are alt.2600.hackers, alt.hacking, ... ofcourse I can
always
> use anonymous proxy to send posts)
> 3. As I'm a fairly patient person I'll explain my self again:
>     - I have application with several layers of protection (against
reverse
> engineering, against database tampering, ...)
>     - a hacker could bypass these measures if he had enough time and
> knowledge
>     - I thought a data destruction beyond repair (not just eg formatting a
> drive, od deleting a partition) is the ultimate protection
>     - think about this situation: hacker bypasses layer of protection
after
> layer; he is happy as a pig in mud; when he thinks that he bypassed all
> protection, program reports and error of some kind and destroys all data
> beyond repair without hacker knowing about it
>     - the hacker gets nothing, and data is not compromised
>     - I was thinking about encryption as additional protection, but it's
> just a matter of time when it'll get cracked
> 4. I don't like you
> 5. YOU ARE A ***
>
> Have a nice day.
>
> "Shannon Jacobs" <shanen@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:3de80f8f$0$22474$44c9b20d@news3.asahi-net.or.jp...
> > "MacroMad" <username@email.co.yu> wrote in message
> > news:<as6ikq$nph4v$1@ID-131597.news.dfncis.de>...
> > > http://shanenj.tripod.com/kumon.html
> > >
> > > Is this you??
> > >
> > > If you need a loan for the plastic surgery, please call me :D
> >
> > Perhaps it is. In that case, and quite unlike you, I would apparently
have
> > no particular reason to lie or hide or quake in my shoes. What are you
so
> > afraid of? Mummy is going to take your computer away if she finds out
> you're
> > being naughty again?
> >
> > As far as the monetary aspects go, if I thought many other residents of
> > Germany were as unintelligent as you, I would certainly have to
reconsider
> > my investments in Euros. So now I get to offer the financial advice. I
> > advise you not to break open your piggy bank just yet. Never can tell
when
> > you might need to buy a new hard disk. [Perhaps that is the answer to
your
> > original question?]
> >
> > Already wasted too much time with your "ad hominem" games. You show no
> more
> > promise there than with your "computer security" games. But let's take a
> > stab at the actual topic of the newsgroup, eh?
> >
> > These years there are increasing concerns about various forms of
computer
> > vandalism, and Microsoft has succeeded in making Windows the favored
> target.
> > Interesting form of success there. Microsoft has taken the money and run
> > away. They explicitly and legally disavow any liability for the harms
that
> > evil people like you aspire to cause. Microsoft's only concern with
> security
> > is that it has become a marketing problem that threatens future sales.
> >
> > Backtracking, is it interesting to consider why someone would want to go
> out
> > and injure innocent people? My speculation is that these sickos are
mostly
> > in two groups. Some of them are basically just unusually cowardly
children
> > going through their violent rebellion stage. Another group consists of
> > big-time losers who have given up on doing anything constructive with
> their
> > lives, so they've decided to try the destructive side. I speculate that
> > there is a third group who are in it for the money, but those ones are
> > recruited from expert programmers, not from the first two groups.
> >
> > You have already managed to stick your head up as a candidate to be
> watched.
> > Since I picked your original post directly off of the Microsoft server
in
> > Washington, it has already come to the attention of the American
> > authorities, who might well be asking the German authorities for
> cooperation
> > in making sure that you aren't acting on behalf of someone else.
Obviously
> > no direct threat from you, but perhaps someone put you up to it?
Stupidity
> > has its price. Are you consoled to know that your file has the
conclusion
> > "No threat except to self."
> >
>
>