Re: NTFS creator/owner property and permissions

From: Andy (andrew_ihatespamtaylor_mcse@yahooihatespam.com)
Date: 11/14/02


From: "Andy" <andrew_ihatespamtaylor_mcse@yahooihatespam.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:11:28 -0500


To the best of my knowledge, whenever a user creates a file or directory on
an NTFS partition, regardless of whether they have full control or modify
permissions, that user can then modify the permissions of the file or
directory he/she created, because the creator of a file is also the owner.
In NTFS, the owner of a file or directory can always modify the permissions,
regardless of what permissions are already there. In my experience, this
has been the case with both Windows NT 4 and Windows 2000. (I'm not sure
about previous versions of NT.)

Assuming the aforementioned is true, my question is: Is there a way to
somehow disable this feature?

Thanks,
Andy

"Jim Dieff" <jdieffenbacher@promenix.com> wrote in message
news:f54401c28b4b$9339ec10$37ef2ecf@TKMSFTNGXA13...
> If you give the Modify but not Full Control NTFS
> permission, this prevents the ACL from being changed.
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hello,
> >
> >As I'm sure most of you are already aware, when a user
> creates files and/or
> >directories on an NTFS volume, that user can always
> modify the permissions
> >of the files and folders he or she has created, due to
> the fact that he or
> >she is the creator/owner.
> >
> >I am setting up NTFS permissions on a Windows 2000 file
> server. If
> >possible, I would like to set up the permissions in such
> a way that a user
> >can create files and subdirectories within a directory
> but not modify the
> >ACLs on the files and subdirectories he/she creates. Is
> this possible using
> >the advanced security settings?
> >
> >Thanks all,
> >Andy
> >
> >--
> >[Remove "I hate spam" message from my return address to
> send e-mail.
> >Otherwise feel free to respond to the newsgroup instead.]
> >
> >
> >.
> >



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