Re: Net Send & Screensavers?

From: A. Tolga KILINĒ (kilinc@tis.havelsan.com.tr)
Date: 09/05/02


From: "A. Tolga KILINĒ" <kilinc@tis.havelsan.com.tr>
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:25:34 +0300


Hi Rob,
it seems that changing the screensaver appeareance from animation to an
alert message isthe best for me. It may be difficult to terminate when there
exists password protection.
You can find the clear screen saver in Resource Kit CD of windows 2000. It
works as an NT service and I can see my animated icons working in the task
bar, so it is continuously updating the screen, I can also see net send
message popping up on the screen.

Regards,
Tolga

"Rob Stow" <read.my.sigfile@sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:eODtLzBVCHA.1676@tkmsftngp12...
> A. Tolga KILINĒ wrote:
> > Hi Rob,
> >
> > is what you mention also true for screensavers protected with a
password?
> > Then it must enter the password for the user or kill itself when it
detects
> > a pop up even it is password protected.
>
> When I tackled this issue a few years ago, if the screen saver
> could not terminate itself because the server/workstation
> was locked, then the screensaver just changed its appearance:
> it went from a blank screen to a message alerting the user
> that he needed to unlock the system and investigate the new
> window that had popped up.
>
>
>
> > Secondly, is this true only for net send or any kind of popup alerts
> > appearing on the screen?
>
> I know you can watch for net send because I have done that in
> the past - but I did it by watching for the message at the
> network level rather than looking at the desktop to see what
> was there.
>
> However, even though the desktop doesn't redraw itself when
> the screensaver is running, you *should* still be able to simply
> periodically enumerate the windows that *would* be on the
> desktop and watch for changes in that enumeration.
> The only way to be sure is either trial and error or to
> ask someone who knows more than I do on this topic.
>
> > There may be a more complex task such that: first a normal screen saver
> > operates, when an alert comes it terminates itself and executes the
> > microsoft clear screen saver, this way you can see the alerts, and still
> > have a screensaver (protection)
> > Please comment more on this if you have better suggestions.
>
> Do you have an URL where I can get this MicroSoft "Clear screen saver" ?
>
> I have heard of it but never seen it personally. My first
> guess would be that it merely shows you an image of what
> the desktop looked like at the time the screensaver started
> but does not update that image. The desktop does not get
> redrawn while the scr.saver is running, so I don't see how
> it can present you with an up-to-date image ? But then again,
> MicroSoft has a long history of doing things that are impossible
> for guys like me simply because they don't tell anyone else
> about many API functions - such as possibly one that can force
> the desktop to redraw even if the scr.saver is running.
>
> Hell, maybe there is a non-hidden way to force the desktop to
> redraw and I simply don't know about it. I looked for such
> a thing a few years ago, but just because I didn't find it
> doesn't mean it isn't there for more knowledgeable programmers.
>
> If you can, for example, see the taskbar clock updating while
> the clear screensaver is running, then your idea merits further
> investigation.
>
> > Thanks.
> > Tolga
> >
> > "Rob Stow" <read.my.sigfile@sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:OGyTdj9UCHA.1644@tkmsftngp08...
> >
> >>Todd J Heron wrote:
> >>
> >>>No.
> >>
> >>But any good windows programmer shouldn't have much of a
> >>problem creating a screensaver for you that watches for
> >>a net send message and terminates itself accordingly.
> >>
> >>Rob
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>--
> >>>Todd J Heron
> >>>todd_heron @ hotmail dot com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"David Jenkins" <david.jenkins@cmg.co.nz> wrote in message
> >>>news:#yV3bptUCHA.3016@tkmsftngp13...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Is it possible to modify NT Wks and Win2kpro regs so that a net send
> >>>
> >>>message
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>will override the workstation screensaver?
> >>>>
> >>>>TIA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
>
>
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