Re: FirstLook.com pop-up application; installed via SP?

From: George Hester (hesterloli@hotmail.com)
Date: 09/02/02 

From: "George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 23:04:17 -0400

You are mistaken. I never said:

"This started happening after downloading IE 6.0 last week. I'm a
Microsoft supporter, but agree this is criminal behavior and whomever
did this should be punished -- the virus analogy is right on." 

--
George Hester
______________________________
"blink" <blink@blink.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.17dc65831289efdd98974e@msnews.microsoft.com...
> George, you're obviously committed to distorting what I say. From the
> original post onwards, I've said that it's either in a MS patch OR there
> is a vulnerability that this is allowing it to be installed via IE or
> whatever. I don't know by what method FirstLook.com and Net.Net were
> able to get so far into my machine, but since I've not downloaded
> anything recently from the net, other than the MS patches, those are the
> only two options I can see. Maybe there is a third option; can someone
> suggest one? Fine, I would just like to know what happened.
>
> I wanted to ask someone who knew something about it, not someone like
> yourself that just cannot imagine a Microsoft product that has a
> vulnerability, or that it's possible that MS might have had a patch
> hacked, or... whatever, just continue with your worship of Microsoft,
> and you'll feel fine about everything, I'm sure.
>
> I also noted in one of my other posts to you that these two garbage
> programs were installed on my machine after I used Windows Update to get
> 3com Net Driver Version 4.16.0.0, so it may have nothing to do with
> win2k sp3. Apparently you didn't read it, or didn't care.
>
> Here is a quote for you from the thread I pointed to in my original
> post: "This started happening after downloading IE 6.0 last week. I'm a
> Microsoft supporter, but agree this is criminal behavior and whomever
> did this should be punished -- the virus analogy is right on." Whatever
> the source, it's disturbing a number of people because something is
> going on that, at least to the people who have reported it, hasn't been
> seen before. A pointer to that thread again:
>
> http://www.computing.net/networking/wwwboard/forum/8981.html
>
> I make my living programming with Microsoft products. I'm not into
> bashing them; but I sure as heck know that they aren't perfect. And what
> I'm trying to draw some attention to is that FirstLook.com and New.Net
> have found a way to install their rubbish on pc's without anyones
> permission.
>
> In article <uK0zkDYUCHA.2684@tkmsftngp08>, hesterloli@hotmail.com
> says...
> > You are determined to believe that Microsoft gave it to you.  That is
fine.
> > You will get it again I am sure.  Not from Microsoft but hey if that's
where
> > you think it came from then Oh boy you have the inside scoop on
> > FirstLook.com.  I am not an expert on what gets installed by ServicePack
3
> > but don't you think something so obvious as a Popup after installing
that
> > Service Pack would have been reported by at least one soul in the
15,000,000
> > people that have installed it?  No?
> >
> > --
> > George Hester
> > ______________________________
> > "blink" <blink@blink.com> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.17dae6fe7a113cb098974b@msnews.microsoft.com...
> > > I guess you have the inside scoop on the service packs, as you're so
> > > unequivocal about it.
> > >
> > > And I agree with you, if they did install it themselves, MS should
> > > "maybe consider making some security enhancements that give us better
> > > control over this type of thing." You said their response would be "we
> > > do", which I can't make any sense of, but whatever.
> > >
> > >
> > > In article <O6c6H4RUCHA.3924@tkmsftngp12>, hesterloli@hotmail.com
> > > says...
> > > > Hocum.  It is not put in by a Microsoft Service pack.  You picked it
up
> > in
> > > > your Web browsing behavior.  I sure hope that Microsoft does NOT do
> > anything
> > > > about it other then maybe making some security enhancements that
give us
> > > > better control over this type of thing.  But their response would
be,
> > "we
> > > > do!."
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > George Hester
> > > > ______________________________
> > > > "blink" <blink@blink.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:MPG.17da95625cb50971989748@msnews.microsoft.com...
> > > > > Quite a number of people are getting a mysterious application
> > installed
> > > > > by a company called FirstLook.com without their foreknowledge or
> > > > > permission. It is getting installed as a application, and is
listed in
> > > > > the control panel Add/Remove Programs section as "FirstLook
Portal".
> > > > > Each day when an infected machine is started, IE opens and
displays
> > > > > their ad. People have reported difficulty in uninstalling it;
other
> > > > > programs getting disabled; and data being transmitted over
broadband
> > > > > connections when it appears.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a thread here discussing the FirstLook.com invasion:
> > > > > http://www.computing.net/networking/wwwboard/forum/8981.html

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