Re: Login with no Fixed Server Role and DB Role can stop SQL Agent Service?
From: BP Margolin (bpmargo@attglobal.net)
Date: 08/23/02
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From: "BP Margolin" <bpmargo@attglobal.net> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 08:25:48 -0400
Johnathen,
Well, I'm out of ideas ... sorry ;-(
If no one else chimes in, you might consider opening a case with Microsoft
Product Support Services. If it turns out to be a bug in Enterprise Manager,
then PSS should not charge you.
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BP Margolin
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"Johnathen Liew" <johnliew@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
news:e#fkdinSCHA.3552@tkmsftngp08...
> BP,
>
> I guess I didn't clearly specify the rights of the user. The user is
holding
> a Window 2000 Login with Domain User default permissions, therefore he is
> not suppose to stop any of the services of my SQL Server 2000.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Johnathen
>
> "BP Margolin" <bpmargo@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:O$yHp1jSCHA.1496@tkmsftngp11...
> > Johnathen,
> >
> > I did a quick review of this thread, and unless I'm mistaken you never
> > actually answered the question about the permissions the user has re:
the
> > operating system. Forget about SQL Server for the moment. What are the
> > permissions for the user's Windows login? Would the user, completely
aside
> > from Enterprise Manager, be able to successfully issue a "net stop" for
> the
> > SQL Server Agent Services from a command prompt?
> >
> > -------------------------------------------
> > BP Margolin
> > Please reply only to the newsgroups.
> > When posting, inclusion of SQL (CREATE TABLE ..., INSERT ..., etc.)
which
> > can be cut and pasted into Query Analyzer is appreciated.
> >
> > "Johnathen Liew" <johnliew@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:enf0UrZSCHA.1644@tkmsftngp08...
> > > BP,
> > >
> > > As I said, the user uses the limited login to register the SQL server
on
> > his
> > > Enterprise Manager, but he is still able to stop the SQL Agent
> > Services....
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Johnathen
> > > "BP Margolin" <bpmargo@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > news:Ov$ZuwTSCHA.3360@tkmsftngp11...
> > > > Johnathen,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the additional information.
> > > >
> > > > Check the login used to register SQL Server within Enterprise
Manager
> > ...
> > > >
> > > > Right-click the server name, choose Properties, choose "Edit SQL
> Server
> > > > Registration properties ..."
> > > >
> > > > -------------------------------------------
> > > > BP Margolin
> > > > Please reply only to the newsgroups.
> > > > When posting, inclusion of SQL (CREATE TABLE ..., INSERT ..., etc.)
> > which
> > > > can be cut and pasted into Query Analyzer is appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > "Johnathen Liew" <johnliew@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:uKqBGJNSCHA.3736@tkmsftngp11...
> > > > > Hi BP,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry for the lack of exact information. This restricted user is
> > suppose
> > > > to
> > > > > connect thru the SQL Server by means of SQL Client Tools and
> > > Connectivity.
> > > > > He will use Enterprise Manager to execute the DTS package. We
found
> > out
> > > > > that, he is able to stop the SQL Agent Service by going into
> > Enterprise
> > > > > Manager, right-clicking the SQL Agent Service, and stop it. This
> user
> > is
> > > > > holding a SQL login, and is not holding any Windows 2000 login in
> the
> > > SQL
> > > > > Server.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > >
> > > > > Johnathen
> > > > >
> > > > > "BP Margolin" <bpmargo@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:O8PQ$jLSCHA.1648@tkmsftngp08...
> > > > > > Johnathen,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You might indicate in the future the exact process by which the
> user
> > > is
> > > > > able
> > > > > > to stop the SQL Server Agent service.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It sorta sounds as if you are mixing SQL Server permissions with
> > that
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > operating system.
> > > > > > Stopping a service ... regardless if it is the SQL Agent
service,
> or
> > > any
> > > > > > other ... is a function of the rights of the user defined on the
> > > > operating
> > > > > > system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To express this another way ... the SA is god within SQL Server,
> > > right.
> > > > > > Well, unless the SA has the requisite operating system
> permissions,
> > > the
> > > > SA
> > > > > > can NOT start the SQL Server service. (BTW, just to completely
> > > accurate,
> > > > > the
> > > > > > SA can stop SQL Server via the SHUTDOWN command, even if the SA
> > would
> > > > not
> > > > > > normally have the operating system permissions to stop the SQL
> > Server
> > > > > > service.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Review the operating system rights granted the user.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -------------------------------------------
> > > > > > BP Margolin
> > > > > > Please reply only to the newsgroups.
> > > > > > When posting, inclusion of SQL (CREATE TABLE ..., INSERT ...,
> etc.)
> > > > which
> > > > > > can be cut and pasted into Query Analyzer is appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Johnathen Liew" <johnliew@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:uvvEeaLSCHA.1756@tkmsftngp11...
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We have a scenerio, where we need to create a DTS package,
which
> > is
> > > > run
> > > > > by
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > designated user. This user should have no other rights other
> than
> > > > > running
> > > > > > > the DTS package. We created a login, with no Fixed Server
Roles
> > and
> > > no
> > > > > > > Database Roles. This user is able to execute the package, but
he
> > is
> > > > able
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > stop the SQL Agent services as well, which is bad, but he
cannot
> > > > > > drop/create
> > > > > > > tables, which is good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is this a SQL Server bug? Any idea anyone?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We are using SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition with SP2.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Johnathen Liew
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Donna Lambert [MS]" <dlambert@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > > message
> > > > > > > news:I0wk$8URCHA.2468@cpmsftngxa06...
> > > > > > > > Adrian,
> > > > > > > > Seems like it would be much simpler to password protect your
> dts
> > > > > > packages.
> > > > > > > > Just a suggestion.
> > > > > > > > Donna Lambert
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> > > > > > > > | From: "Adrian" <adrianw@persoft.com.my>
> > > > > > > > | Sender: "Adrian" <adrianw@persoft.com.my>
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> > > > > > > > | Hi,
> > > > > > > > | I want to create a user id where this id can only run
> > > > > > > > | DTS. Other function like starting of the SQL Agent, backup
> > > > > > > > | database should not be given access right. Could anyone
> > > > > > > > | help what type rights should i assign to this userid.
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> > > > > > > > | Thanks
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