Re: Are We Addressing Cyber Crime Backwards

Karl Levinson wrote:


"Imhotep" <imhotep@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The ONLY way that author could have gotten MyDoom.M and Netsky.P viruses
on
her Windows XP computer is by double-clicking on an email attachment.
When you do this, it's no good blaming the computer or its manufacturer
like she
did. How an author with claims at being a security expert could do this
is beyond me, but it casts her expertise on the subject into doubt.

...sorry but I disagree. If you get an attachment from someone you know,
why
would you not click on it. What if they are a business partner, or
someone you work with? Secondly, consistently blaming users for the clear
lack of security in Windows products is getting pretty old and lame...

You cannot possibly disagree that the only way to get those viruses is by
double-clicking on a virus attachment.

I disagree with the point of consistently blaming users for the lack of
quality in the Windows platform. Just because a user clicks on an
attachment does not mean it should *infect* *your* *system*...

Those viruses almost never come from people you know.

Bull "cookies". They come from anyone who is infected. It could be your
wife, a co-worker, a work mate or an old friend. A lot of those viruses
just simply look at your addressbook and send to everyone in it....

What kind of "security expert" double-clicks on a .BAT or .ZIP file
attached
to an undeliverable error message that begins "Dear user?" And then when
the file fails to open or give an expected error message, doesn't bother
to
run antivirus software? And does all of this while not having antivirus
software? And then writes an article called "How viruses got on my
ultra-secure computer?" And if you read about the email text that
Netsky.P uses, you'll see that any so-called "security expert" should not
have been
fooled. I'm sorry, this is just nonsense.

1) Where in the article does it say that she killed on a ".bat" file?

2) Your are missing my point. Ask yourself something. Why couldn't a mature
OS defend against a virus sent via email?

3) Why is it that people like you, consistently blame the users for the
shortcomings of Microsoft products. This is an overused excuse that has
become quite lame....

Sure, some users may be fooled by this. But I wasn't talking about those
users. I was talking about one author who claims to be a security expert.
You changed the subject.

Again, read the statements above...

This is a tech support forum for Microsoft users. Your Microsoft bashing
here is getting really old. I don't think everything Microsoft does is
golden, but talking about it here as you do is off-topic and unwanted.

No, what is getting really old is people like you who call people with
legitimate complaints "Microsoft Bashers"....that is getting old. And it is
an excuse.

Second, since the majority of viruses are a Microsoft problem, this
conversation is NOT off topic.

-- Imhotep
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