Re: Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible
- From: "Roger Abell [MVP]" <mvpNoSpam@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:29:12 -0700
"Imhotep" <imhotep@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Roger Abell [MVP] wrote:
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Alun Jones wrote:
Imhotep wrote:
Michael D. Ober wrote:
The only OS that this warning doesn't appear to apply to is OpenVMS.
Linux (and by extension, Mac OS-X) and Unix are also subject to this
same problem.
What kind of 'stuff' are you smoking???? Do you have any idea how
stupid you sound?
I have been using Linux for 10 years, never caught anything. If I had
a dollar everytime I caught something on Windows I could retire very
wealthy. The truth is that malware is 99.9 % a Windows problem. So
stop lying about it!
Where's the "lie"? Where's the "stupid"?
The lie is:
"The only OS that this warning doesn't appear to apply to is OpenVMS.
Linux
(and by extension, Mac OS-X) and Unix are also subject to this same
problem."
You are misleading people by saying malware (spyware, adware, etc)
affects all OSes. When in fact it is a WINDOWS PROBLEM!!! Swallow the
sour pill and
admit the truth...
This warning - that malware can leave such insidious and subtle traces
on a system that you can't guarantee to have found and removed them all
- _is_
applicable to all systems. Possibly excluded are systems that
exclusively
use write-once storage (CD-Rs, for example), and thus have an audit
trail from the moment they were first turned on to right now.
TRUE or FALSE, malware (spyware and adware) is 99% a WINDOWS problem:
TRUE OR FALSE.....
Let's remember that the very term "rootkit" came from the Unix world.
A rootkit does have the possibility of infecting any system. This is
true. A
rootkit is typically installed because a user has downloaded something
and has root/administrator privileges (UNIX users do not have these
higher privileges but in Windows, especially "home" additions do. Thus,
again, making them more vulnerable). However, we are not talking about
rootkits.
Sorry, but we ARE talking about rootkits.
Common malware is cleanable.
Sorry but we are not. And I quote myself, the originator of this thread:
"TRUE or FALSE, malware (spyware and adware) is 99% a WINDOWS problem:
TRUE OR FALSE....."
Why are you try so desperately to change the topic? The topic was and I
qoute again "malware (spyware and adware")"...which plagues the Windows
PCs....
The topic is/was
Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible
The intial post quoted a Microsoft source as saying
<quote>
When you are dealing with rootkits and some advanced spyware programs,
the only solution is to rebuild from scratch.
</quote>
I commented that rootkits are the reason that flattening systems
has come to be, years ago now, the recommended recovery path
for a violated system.
You however, seem to think that this thread does not have any
need to keep to the original topic. Malware is a generic term,
which I take to include rootkits, which I believe is commonly done.
You however now want to take this down to only adware and
spyware.
.
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