Re: IAS & Fully-Qualified-User-Name

From: S. Pidgorny (slavickp_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 11/01/05


Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 11:43:21 +1100

I gather some people have problems with NTLMv2 and had to degrade NTLM
security. However it seems like MS has a hotfix that you should try:

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=893318 (the support incident is free, as it
is about a known problem)

Try it

-- 
Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
-= F1 is the key =-
"Bryan Hunt" <BryanHunt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:448CE6DA-5DA7-42E2-81F2-F1C5E8F2B8D5@microsoft.com...
> Here are the IAS and Security events respectively:
>
> User bhunt was denied access.
>  Fully-Qualified-User-Name = BOSTLEMAN\bhunt
>  NAS-IP-Address = <not present>
>  NAS-Identifier = <not present>
>  Called-Station-Identifier = <not present>
>  Calling-Station-Identifier = <not present>
>  Client-Friendly-Name = Fortigate
>  Client-IP-Address = 100.100.101.1
>  NAS-Port-Type = <not present>
>  NAS-Port = <not present>
>  Proxy-Policy-Name = Windows Auth
>  Authentication-Provider = Windows
>  Authentication-Server = <undetermined>
>  Policy-Name = <undetermined>
>  Authentication-Type = PAP
>  EAP-Type = <undetermined>
>  Reason-Code = 16
>  Reason = Authentication was not successful because an unknown user name
or
> incorrect password was used.
>
> Logon attempt by: MICROSOFT_AUTHENTICATION_PACKAGE_V1_0
>  Logon account: bhunt
>  Source Workstation:
>  Error Code: 0xC000006A
>
> Logon Failure:
>   Reason: Unknown user name or bad password
>   User Name: bhunt
>   Domain: BOSTLEMAN
>   Logon Type: 3
>   Logon Process: IAS
>   Authentication Package: MICROSOFT_AUTHENTICATION_PACKAGE_V1_0
>   Workstation Name:
>   Caller User Name: MANAGE1$
>   Caller Domain: BOSTLEMAN
>   Caller Logon ID: (0x0,0x3E7)
>   Caller Process ID: 1964
>   Transited Services: -
>   Source Network Address: -
>   Source Port: -
>
>
>
> "S. Pidgorny <MVP>" wrote:
>
> > These are IAS log entries, right? What's in the Event Log, in
particular -
> > System log - IAS entries, and Security log - failed logon attempts?
> >
> > -- 
> > Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
> > -= F1 is the key =-
> >
> > "Bryan Hunt" <BryanHunt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:F3071F61-CBC7-48F3-B295-C9782C6AD0A7@microsoft.com...
> > > Svyatoslav,
> > >
> > > I have tried all three forms of the user name:
> > > user
> > > domain\user
> > > user@domain.local
> > >
> > > None of them will authenticate the user.
> > > Here is a log entry from a failed attempt:
> > >
> > >
> >
100.100.101.1,bhunt,10/20/2005,21:01:25,IAS,MANAGE1,4108,100.100.101.1,4116,
> > 0,4128,Fortigate,4155,1,4154,Windows
> > > Auth,4129,BOSTLEMAN\bhunt,4130,BOSTLEMAN\bhunt,4127,1,25,311 1
> > 100.100.101.11
> > > 10/21/2005 00:34:18 1,4136,1,4142,0
> > >
> > > Notice the form of the 4130 pair, domain\user.  In all of the other
> > servers
> > > that I have set up like this, IAS generates a 4130 entry that has the
> > realm
> > > information along with the container name where the user is located.
Here
> > is
> > > an example:
> > >
> > > 172.16.99.254,bhunt,10/20/2005,18:47:33,IAS,CCNWOSVR,25,311 1
> > 172.16.99.203
> > > 10/16/2005 22:02:12 8,4108,172.16.99.254,4116,0,4128,Fortigate
> > > 50A,4155,1,4154,Use Windows authentication for all
> > > users,4129,CCNWO\bhunt,4127,1,4149,VPN
> > > Access,7,1,6,2,4130,CCNWO.Local/Users/Bryan Hunt,4136,2,4142,0
> > >
> > > I am not sure if the form of the 4130 pair is the reason why the users
are
> > > not being found, or if it is the result of the users not being found.
But
> > it
> > > is the only thing that I can find that is different from all of the
> > working
> > > IAS environments.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Bryan Hunt
> > >
> > >
> > > "S. Pidgorny <MVP>" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well... Probably not a DC location problem then. Are there any
failed
> > > > authentication attempts in the security log? Have you tried to
specify
> > > > explicitely "domain\username" and username@domain.local (the UPN)
for
> > the
> > > > logon?
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > > Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
> > > > -= F1 is the key =-
> > > >
> > > > "Bryan Hunt" <BryanHunt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:847661FC-5704-4E93-8593-C758C5726FFE@microsoft.com...
> > > > > Svyatoslav,
> > > > >
> > > > > I will capture traffic from the firewall to the IAS server, but
don't
> > > > think
> > > > > that it will tell us much.  The IAS server is a domain controller
too,
> > so
> > > > all
> > > > > of its authentication to AD should be local.  Not sure how to log
that
> > > > > communication.   Any thoughts there?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bryan Hunt
> > > > >
> > > > > "S. Pidgorny <MVP>" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I think the domain.local\users\username vs. domain\username
issue
> > can be
> > > > > > caused by the fact that IAS server cannot locate the user in the
> > > > directory,
> > > > > > or cannot locate directory server. This might be a problem with
name
> > > > > > resolution - capture traffic from IAS as the user tries to
> > authenticate
> > > > to
> > > > > > find out what exactly goes wrong.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
> > > > > > -= F1 is the key =-
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Bryan Hunt" <BryanHunt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
> > > > > > news:B780FFE4-B282-410C-9755-A5AB4BA6E01A@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > I have set up a series of IAS servers to authorize VPN users
for
> > their
> > > > > > > firewalls.  All of them have worked perfectly except the one I
am
> > > > stuck on
> > > > > > > now.  The config and the firewall are exactly the same as
others I
> > > > have
> > > > > > set
> > > > > > > up, but this one does not authenticate the user, and gives the
> > > > following
> > > > > > > error in the event log:  "Reason = Authentication was not
> > successful
> > > > > > because
> > > > > > > an unknown user name or incorrect password was used."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The user and password are valid, and the user has dial-up
rights.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The only difference that I can see is the FQUN that the IAS
server
> > > > tries
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > authenticate with.  All of the other IAS servers use the realm
and
> > > > path to
> > > > > > > authenticate(e.g. domain.local\users\username), where as this
> > server
> > > > uses
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > netbios version: domain\username.  I suspect that it is this
> > > > difference
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > is causing IAS to not be able to find the correct user.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What would cause IAS to use that form of the FQUN instead of
the
> > form
> > > > with
> > > > > > > the realm?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bryan Hunt
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >


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