Re: restricting admin access to network

From: =pathfinder= (pathfinder_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 09/16/05


Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:14:02 -0700

wooooohhhhhooooooooooooooo! you guys are geniuses. works great, thanks.

Any hope on these 2 questions?
> >> -1) How can I set the permissions so only enterprise admin can edit
> >> all GPO's? I will then delegate specific policies to specific people.
> >> 2) Can I modify the default domain GPO ACL to only have enterprise
> >> admin edit it? I see in the GPMC that I can remove the delegation
> >> to domain admins. Is this how I go about this?

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

>
>
> In news:OdEi2dguFHA.3932@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
> Steven L Umbach <n9rou@nospam-comcast.net> typed:
> > First off in a root domain you really can not prevent a member of the
> > administrators group for the "domain" or domain admins group from
> > becoming whatever they want including enterprise or schema
> > administrators. You really should only need a couple of
> > administrators [or domain admins] for the domain. You can however add
> > regular domain users to the local administrators group of any domain
> > computer that is not a domain controller. You can do it via a Group
> > Policy startup script using the net localgroup command or use
> > Restricted Groups via a Group Policy linked at the OU level and then
> > add the domain computers you want them to be local administrators on
> > into that OU. You may want to use "member of" option when you do
> > this, create a global group that contains the users you want, then
> > add it to administrators. Your Windows 2000 computers will need to be
> > at SP4 for "member of" to work right. You do not have to use "member
> > of" but the other option will replace and enforce current membership
> > in the local administrators group on those domain computers which may
> > or may not be desirable for you. Once you have that make sure that
> > membership of administrators [for the domain], domain admins,
> > enterprise admins, and schemas admins is what you want and monitor it
> > closely and be sure that auditing of account management is enabled in
> > Domain Controller Security Policy so that it can help you monitor
> > changes in group membership. -- Steve
>
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> .....in addition, you can add domain groups to local workstation groups....I
> usually create a group in AD called "Local Admins" and add that group to
> every workstation's local administrators group - which you can do
> centrally - and add the domain users/groups I wish to that group.
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/default.mspx --- TechNet
> > Security home page
> >
> > "=pathfinder=" <pathfinder@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:D628EF43-42A6-4C6C-A231-C45BEC5D8D69@microsoft.com...
> >> I need to figure out a way to prevent the network admins from
> >> promoting themselves to enterprise/schema admins. I have already
> >> set up the restricted
> >> group, but they can still add themselves to these groups to bypass
> >> this. Questions:
> >> -1) How can I set the permissions so only enterprise admin can edit
> >> all GPO's? I will
> >> then delegate specific policies to specific people.
> >> 2) Can I modify the default domain GPO ACL to only have enterprise
> >> admin edit it? I see in the GPMC that I can remove the delegation
> >> to domain admins. Is this how I go about this?
> >> 3) MOST IMPORTANTLY: I have tried removing domain admin permissions
> >> from my
> >> guys, but then it gets really hard for them to do their work on
> >> client PC's since they have to log in as local admin. What can I do
> >> to ease this pain and remove domain admin for a few more guys? I
> >> have added them to the administrators group in AD but that did not
> >> seem to help. 4) Right now the group "domain admins" is added to the
> >> remote tab of the system tab. Should I replace this with the
> >> "Remote Desktop Users" group? I
> >> am also considering customizing this per server, is this safe?
> >>
> >> I realize that I am not doing things the right way and that none of
> >> use should log onto every/any PC as a domain admin, but I do not
> >> have a more efficient method yet.
> >>
> >> TIA
>
>
>



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