Re: lets vote for better security
From: Robert Moir (robspamtrap+msnews_at_gmail.com)
Date: 04/10/05
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Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:08:45 +0100
Michael Pelletier wrote:
> Say what? Frontpage is not a security risk? Outlook express either?
Frontpage the program? Not in a default XP install it isn't, because it
doesn't exist in a default install. That '\program files\Microsoft
Frontpage' directory you're about to reply and mention, calling me an idiot
for not noticing? - Empty
Outlook Express? Not such a good record but the most recent versions are
doing better. Which of course doesn't matter, if you're not using it then it
still shouldn't be there.
> If you are not using them you should be able to delete them.
Agreed there. I'd much prefer not to have a bunch of crap installed that I
don't plan to use, as this pushes up the cost of securing a system, with
zero returns if I don't even use the stuff i'm securing.
> Outlook/Outlook express are in the top 5 MS applications with the
> worse security problems.
Outlook and Outlook Express are totally different applications despite the
similar names, and Outlook is *not* installed as part of Windows. If we're
gonna talk about what Windows does wrong, can we please be clear about what
it is that Windows does?
>Frontpage extentions are not even allowed on
> most web sites, again because of the problems....
Agreed again, but totally irrelevant to the debate at hand. Again, if we're
gonna talk about what Windows does wrong, can we be please be clear about
what it is that Windows does.
>>> 2. the os shouldnt install it back after i delete the junk
>>
>> It doesn't. Except for Outlook Express it might. That's because it
>> is an integral part of your OS. I suggest changing OS's if you
>> don't want it.
>
> Lame. Lame excuse...The only reason you CAN NOT delete it is because
> MS WANTS you to have it...period.
Quite.
>>> 3. easier way to uninstall or dont install stuff i dont need/want
>>
>> Well this one I actually agree with but not broadly as you have
>> stated.
>
> They sure should allow this. Will they? Depends on how much money is
> involved...and marketing money is involved.
What is so difficult about the current procedure for uninstalling software?
Do you mean that more Windows components should be included in the current
uninstall method, so that we could properly remove WMP, IE, OE in this way?
I'd agree with that. If you mean something else then please tell us what
exactly is wrong with the current uninstall method?
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