Re: MS05-002 on 9x and ME

From: Rick T (plinnane3REMOVE_at_NOSPAMyahoo.com)
Date: 03/28/05 

Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:20:36 -0500

PCR wrote:
> Bútora, Rick T-- Let me know what happens after you call; for instance,
> any spittle in your ears? I will make my final decision afterwards. For
> now, Colorado has hypnotized me against it!

Won't be anytime soon... I like the 2 file replace fix if/when I go back
to WinME though ChrisQ brings up a good point that some security fixes
may be lost.

Rick T

from a couple of my posts on the issue in 2004....
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I came at it from the other side; I installed litepc after (because) I
installed IE6. Two behaviours I remember:

- system was slow in that app A would wait for app B's diskwrite to
finish before I could even move the mouse :(

- Windows Explorer multiple file deletes slowed far past a crawl;
anything over 10-15 (normal sized) files just stopped Explorer cold for
literally minutes, if not crashing Explorer completely.

If you run without the ie-html engine, your Explorer will be light-years
faster than with it(as I'm sure you know), as I found when I subbed in
the W95 browser thru the litepc - 'don't blink' sort of thing. With the
98/ME browser but ie-html engine removed, a little slower, with the
98/ME browser and ie-html engine but no IE, a little slower than that...

Changing the HD to 'always on' fixed the multitasking problem (but I do
*not* recall having that problem previous to IE6 install), but the only
thing to fix the WE hanging/crashing was to uninstall IE6 (I tried it,
it worked then I reinstalled the OS).

I don't recall it being any more slower than usual loading programs
(which isn't saying much).

Barring further research, etc. I'm just taking the tack that IE6 was
written for NTx and shoehorned rather poorly into 9X.

Rick
p3-667, 512MB

and another...
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>>Sorta like (personal gripe) the IE6 explorer files, which from what I
>>can tell on my system is optimized for multithreading and just plain old
>>crappy without it.

> Don't know about that particular instance, but I've had a suspicion ever
> since the release of XP that such is/was the general trend.

The OS started acting like it had never heard of "multitasking" much
less "multithreading"; formerly you could count on the hd-cache acting
independently with write-behind enabled, but after the upgrade: mouse
freezes while waiting for disk access on another window, WExplorer
taking forever to delete > 20ish files... thought it was my own
configuration bunging things up, but I saw a few others on these
newsgroups/googling. Will try it again when/if the CD gets here, but
I've been warning people off IE6 upgrade when relevant.

Just seemed like the industry standard push to upgrade by "accidentally"
screwing over older products.