Re: Beta anti spyware

From: Matt Gibson (mattg_at_blueedgetech.ca)
Date: 02/20/05 

Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:54:17 -0800

Hopefully I'm not only one who sees the delightful irony in a laywer
complaing about terms he doesn't understand?

Matt Gibson - GSEC

"Philly lawyer" <Phillylawyer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5257CCB4-AF0A-4C6A-A43D-73362D6D117D@microsoft.com...
> Of course the term Beta was in the material I read and of course if I had
> known what that meant it would have been evident that it was Beta
> software,
> but that is irrelevant to the discussion. The whole point is that Beta
> is,
> as you said, a computerindustry term and has a very specific meaning
> within
> the industry. However, regardless of how long it may have been used by
> Microsoft and understood by those in the industry, I am not in the
> industry
> and had never seen the term before. As a layperson, I therefore would
> have
> no way of knowing what it meant without having it explained to me.
>
> "Brian Komar (IdentIT Inc)" wrote:
>
>> In article <620B36E6-5688-4C88-914C-B9C24E175E14@microsoft.com>,
>> Phillylawyer@discussions.microsoft.com says...
>> > I just went back and went through the entire download site again,
>> > including
>> > clicking on and reading every single link to additional information.
>> > As an
>> > attorney, I perform critical, close reading of documents on a daily
>> > basis and
>> > I'm good at it. As a matter of fact, the site in fact does not ever
>> > explain
>> > that this is a test program, does not specifically invite feedback from
>> > consumers, and in no way suggests that the software is anything other
>> > than a
>> > finished product similar to other free software often provided by
>> > Micorsoft
>> > to its users. (I know, I know, there's that "Beta" thing, but I
>> > discussed
>> > that in my previous message.) I now realise that since when I went
>> > back the
>> > second time (contrary to your implication, I had gone through it
>> > thoroughly
>> > before I downloaded the software) I had the inside info about the
>> > meaning of
>> > "Beta," I could pick up on the very few references in the literature
>> > that
>> > suggest not that there is some testing going on, but only that some
>> > additional "tweaking" is going on with the product. You can throw some
>> > more
>> > nasty comments about my failings and flaws in this whole episode if you
>> > wish,
>> > but I stand by my critique of Micorsoft's conduct in all of this.
>>
>> I am sorry that you were unaware of the term "beta" software, but the
>> term has been in use by Microsoft for a very long time (I remember using
>> beta version of Windows NT 3.5).
>>
>> The term is an industry recognized term, so I feel that your critique is
>> not really called for, due to your lack of knowledge of the term.
>>
>> Would you at least agree that the term "beta" was evident in the dialogs
>> that you read, and that, if, you understood the term, you would be in
>> agreement that it was evident that the software was "beta" software?
>>
>> Brian
>>

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