Re: Have all the Email systems of the world been broken by ISP's SPAM filters?
From: Karl Levinson, mvp (levinson_k_at_despammed.com)
Date: 01/02/05
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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 08:16:33 -0500
You or they may have to consider switching to a different ISP with better
tech support. Or when you call tech support, try demanding to speak to a
manager.
If you switched to, say, AOL or MSN, you might not get the right answer the
first time, but I would think you would be able to escalate the issue to
someone else who would take your problem seriously.
Or, wait until worldkey gets their spam filters working.
It seems to me the bulk of the problems here are with worldkey. I've never
heard of them. Your results notwithstanding, my experience has been that
major ISPs generally have more reliable spam filtering than what worldkey is
using, and care more if their filtering causes major problems.
> worldkey.net CANNOT send mail to verizon.net
Sounds like worldkey may be listed as a spammer, perhaps their email servers
are configured to permit relays. Or possibly worldkey.net is using dnsrbl
and thinks verizon.net is a spammer. Either way, I suspect worldkey.
> worldkey.net CAN send mail to samus.securehbs.com
> worldkey.net CAN send mail to princeton.edu
> worldkey.net CAN send mail to netzero.net
> worldkey.net CAN send mail to axcelis.com
Sounds to me like things are working as expected for all of the five ISPs
above.
> comcast.net sometimes CANNOT send mail to verizon.net
What's the error message you get?
> samus.securehbs.com CANNOT send mail to godaddy.com for forwarding
either... In this case they were nice
> enough to send back this response:
> "smtp.secureserver.net [64.202.166.12]: 553 69.93.45.234 rejected due to
spam, contact 480-505-8877 (Attack detected)"
I'm not at all surprised about this. You could call the phone number and
try to get help. It could be that you will not be able to do this or may
need to change something. How are you sending this email? And what email
addresses are in the From: and To: fields of your email? Generally, to
prevent spam relaying, I would think that godaddy.com would have to be in
either the From: or To: field, or else the mail would be rightfully rejected
by most any sane email server.
"BeamGuy" <nobody@spam.com> wrote in message
news:egzb$jH8EHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> I am sitting here in this new year trying to figure out how on earth I am
supposed to send email to my in-laws this year. Their
> email stopped working a few weeks back when their ISP installed a new SPAM
filter. Now it is fixed... but only 2/5 of my test
> messages get through.
>
> Searching Google I find that they are not alone. There are not only ample
complaints about their own tiny ISP.
>
> And their ISP is not alone either. Several months back a friend had to
give up sending mail to my home DSL account because her
> messages were bouncing... - Google has huge numbers of complaints about my
own Verizon DSL provider as well.
>
> Here is my matrix of what does not work.
>
> Verizon.net CANNOT send mail to worldkey.net
> axcelis.com CANNOT send mail to worldkey.net
> princeton.edu CANNOT send mail to worldkey.net
> netzero.com CAN send mail to worldkey.net
> samus.securehbs.com CAN send mail to worldkey.net
>
> worldkey.net CANNOT send mail to verizon.net
> worldkey.net CAN send mail to samus.securehbs.com
> worldkey.net CAN send mail to princeton.edu
> worldkey.net CAN send mail to netzero.net
> worldkey.net CAN send mail to axcelis.com
>
> comcast.net sometimes CANNOT send mail to verizon.net
> verizon.net CAN send mail to comcast.net
>
> samus.securehbs.com CANNOT send mail to godaddy.com for forwarding
either... In this case they were nice
> enough to send back this response:
> "smtp.secureserver.net [64.202.166.12]: 553 69.93.45.234 rejected due to
spam, contact 480-505-8877 (Attack detected)"
>
>
> -------------
>
> It is not my job to fill in the rest of the matrix. It looks like as many
as 50% of the relays
> from one mail to another mail server are broken! Please tell me this is
not happening.
> I make a living making parts for computers.... if you guys in the interest
of security break
> everyone's confidence that email will get through... well everyone will
switch back to
> paper mail and leave all of us with rusty expensive toys that no one uses
anymore!
>
>
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