Re: Have all the Email systems of the world been broken by ISP's SPAM filters?

From: BeamGuy (nobody_at_spam.com)
Date: 01/02/05 

Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 22:51:51 -0500

When I had the problem with recieving from comcast.net I waited about 2 hours
on hold at verizon.net before someone who did not know what a mail server was
could tell me it was not their problem - there was no one else in the company I
could talk with - and my friend should contact her service. After describing my
experience she did not choose to contact comcast.net - instead she just started
using another email address that worked.

worldkey.net is my inlaw's ISP - and most of the time we get some fellow who
speaks with an indian accent who gives out incorrect information. When I called
and could keep him on the line while I tried it he switched to what sounded like
the only english he knew...
"We are having problems with out mail servers due to spam"
how long till it is fixed.
"We are having problems with out mail servers due to spam"
Is there anyone else I can talk with
"We are having problems with out mail servers due to spam"
...
I have an email contact at worldkey.net, but have not recieved a response.

Presumeably godaddy.com and samus.securehbs.com are
different ISP's... I just don't have the energy to spend tracking that one down,
and it is not my main problem of today - just another example that shows
that we are facing a widespread problem here.

In general - who should be the responsible party, the guy at the recieving end
who refuses the connection or the guy at the sending end who sent something
that looked suspicious?

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message news:%23HEXRrH8EHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Since your ISP is doing it, what did they say when you asked them about it?
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/
>
>
> "BeamGuy" <nobody@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:egzb$jH8EHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >I am sitting here in this new year trying to figure out how on earth I am
> >supposed to send email to my in-laws this year. Their
> > email stopped working a few weeks back when their ISP installed a new SPAM
> > filter. Now it is fixed... but only 2/5 of my test
> > messages get through.
> >
> > Searching Google I find that they are not alone. There are not only ample
> > complaints about their own tiny ISP.
> >
> > And their ISP is not alone either. Several months back a friend had to
> > give up sending mail to my home DSL account because her
> > messages were bouncing... - Google has huge numbers of complaints about my
> > own Verizon DSL provider as well.
> >
> > Here is my matrix of what does not work.
> >
> > Verizon.net CANNOT send mail to worldkey.net
> > axcelis.com CANNOT send mail to worldkey.net
> > princeton.edu CANNOT send mail to worldkey.net
> > netzero.com CAN send mail to worldkey.net
> > samus.securehbs.com CAN send mail to worldkey.net
> >
> > worldkey.net CANNOT send mail to verizon.net
> > worldkey.net CAN send mail to samus.securehbs.com
> > worldkey.net CAN send mail to princeton.edu
> > worldkey.net CAN send mail to netzero.net
> > worldkey.net CAN send mail to axcelis.com
> >
> > comcast.net sometimes CANNOT send mail to verizon.net
> > verizon.net CAN send mail to comcast.net
> >
> > samus.securehbs.com CANNOT send mail to godaddy.com for forwarding
> > either... In this case they were nice
> > enough to send back this response:
> > "smtp.secureserver.net [64.202.166.12]: 553 69.93.45.234 rejected due to
> > spam, contact 480-505-8877 (Attack detected)"
> >
> >
> > -------------
> >
> > It is not my job to fill in the rest of the matrix. It looks like as many
> > as 50% of the relays
> > from one mail to another mail server are broken! Please tell me this is
> > not happening.
> > I make a living making parts for computers.... if you guys in the interest
> > of security break
> > everyone's confidence that email will get through... well everyone will
> > switch back to
> > paper mail and leave all of us with rusty expensive toys that no one uses
> > anymore!
>
>