Re: Corporate Idiots

From: Ray (reply_in_at_news.only)
Date: 04/15/04


Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 22:18:51 -0400

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> Does anyone know how an NT admin can do thier job with out domain admin
priviledges? Some security and helpdesk type has come up that to do this
they would grant us limited access only for a short time to do a certain job
and then take it away. We would have to request access on the change
control system and wait for a reply.

Sounds like your organization has had some bad experiences with a lack of
change control. Also sounds like you may have a ton of "service" accounts
that have domain admin rights and passwords that are years old.

> This would be for everything exchange, backups, user rights, unlocking
accounts, printer setup everything.

Exchange admin does not require domain admin rights, not even the service
account. Nor do backups. User rights, perhaps, but how big an organization
are we talking? Printer setup, nope.

> Other than let this 24 by 7 operation come to a screeching halt what can
the domain admins do?????

Start off with limited rights, like account operator and stop letting your
everyday network account have domain admin privileges. Have a second
account, non-shared, set up to do that. It doesn't take that long to logout
and back in or to use "RunAs". That's what I do. Keeps me from messing up
things inadvertently.

> These are supposedly highly educated computer specialists and
managers...... There is even an CISSP in on this one so I don't want to hear
anymore about the great CISSP cert. You certainly don't have to have a
brain to get this cert. Reply's requested or comments.

Yeah, well, think about the principle of least privilege. Don't allow
anything that is not needed and then only allow it for the duration that it
is needed. If you think the CISSP is a no-brainer, take it.

Ray, CISSP



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