Re: Problems with some programs now I've adopted a non-administrative account

From: Philip Herlihy (foof8501_at_herlihy.eu.veil.com)
Date: 02/01/04 

Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 09:59:44 -0000

PhotoDraw has been discontinued in favour of PhotoIt (if I recall the name
correctly). Trouble is, I've been using PD for ages and it's second nature
now! Must learn how to use my copy of Photoshop...

What's more troublesome are those programs which appear to install correctly
but produce odd permission-related glitches when used with a limited
account. The latest is Corel Painter 8 (trial) - I'll be using filemon
later to see what's wrong. 

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##  PH, London
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"Bill Sanderson" <Bill_Sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org> wrote in message
news:OGLUDhH6DHA.2488@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> This is a goal well worth pursuing.  I've one small office with brand new
XP
> machines and a Windows 2000 server running in this mode now.  It has
worked
> well for them so far--it drives me nuts when I want to look at network
> connection properties, however, I haven't found a way to get RunAs to let
me
> look at those properly.  Otherwise--software installs, etc--it works
> well--users are prompted when more permissions are needed for an install.
>
> There are definitely individual software apps which are resistant to this
> treatment.  I'm surprised to hear that  PhotoDraw is among them--but I
> haven't tried it out myself.
>
> "Philip Herlihy" <foof8501@herlihy.eu.veil.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Vb5OMD6DHA.1632@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Thanks - that's good advice.  I used regmon for the first time recently
> > and
> > was amazed how useful it was, and how easy to use (with a few minutes'
> > experimentation).  I haven't used filemon yet, but I'm surprised at
myself
> > that I didn't think of it.
> >
> > I do want to continue as a limited user for routine tasks, if only so
that
> > I
> > can understand the issues involved.  I earn my living advising small
> > businesses, and despite over 20 years in the industry there are plenty
of
> > things I still need to figure out.  This is one of them...
> >
> > -- 
> > ####################
> > ##  PH, London
> > ####################
> > "Steven L Umbach" <sumbach@nospam-ameritech.net> wrote in message
> > news:sSQSb.6583$BA2.3151@newssvr26.news.prodigy.com...
> >> If you are a home user go ahead and use your administrator account. I
> > always
> >> do [on several computers] and never have a problem, BUT I use a complex
> >> password for my account, have a properly configured firewall, keep my
> >> patches currernt, use an antivirus proram that scans all emails and
> > updates
> >> itself automatically,  have hardened my Internet Explorer settings to
be
> > at
> >> least what is described in the link below, and don't install junk
> >> software
> >> from file swapping sites. However you are correct that in a domain
> >> multicomputer environment where even all the users on the lan may not
be
> >> trusted, you need to use the administrator account sparingly and
protect
> > it
> >> well.
> >>
> >> http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> >>
> >> If you want to continue what you are doing. It may be possible to
modify
> >> ntfs and registry permissions for an application so that it can run as
a
> >> regular user. Contacting the software publisher or viewing FAQ at their
> >> website may help. Or you can try to track down needed permissions
> >> yourself
> >> by using the regmon and filemon tools from Sysinternals, invoking them
> > with
> >> runas and administraor credentials while logged on as a regular user
just
> >> before you try to run the application looking in the logile generated
to
> > see
> >> where access is denied and repeating the process with both utilities as
> > many
> >> times as necessary.  --- Steve
> >>
> >> http://www.sysinternals.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> "Philip Herlihy" <foof8501@herlihy.eu.veil.com> wrote in message
> >> news:OHAN8H$5DHA.2628@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> > I've taken the occasion of a complete reinstall to change from my old
> >> habit
> >> > of using an administrator-level account for routine use.  I've
figured
> > out
> >> > most of the problems, but one or two programs are intractable.  MS
> >> > PhotoDraw, for example, will only run with administrative privilege
> > (tried
> >> > everything else) so I've set up a shortcut which prompts me to log on
> > with
> >> a
> >> > higher-level account.  The PDF995 pseudo printer-driver (bargain -
see
> >> > www.pdf995.com) won't run now unless I'm logged on with full admin
> >> > credentials.
> >> >
> >> > I wonder what guidelines there might be from folk who've tackled this
> >> > before?  Obviously I can change account and grant my limited account
> > Full
> >> > Control to selected files and folders, but this is surely negating
the
> >> > protection of using a limited account.  Any tips, or pointers to
> > articles?
> >> >
> >> > -- 
> >> > ####################
> >> > ##  PH, London
> >> > ####################
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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> >
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