RE: Why aren't these IE and XP Security Holes Addressed by Microsoft?

From: WayuU (anonymous_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 01/29/04


Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:26:13 -0800

Hi,

I'm no expert in any area at all. I might just be one of the dumbest MCSEs living :P but I'm wondering, when were these holes discovered?
If discovered only a couple of weeks ago then it's much too early to expect any professional company to fix it. There is extensive teseting fo updates and fixes b4 beeing released on Win Update. MS is actually very keen on rigurous testing. Some other linux vendors have been faster for their OSes but it almost always shows that the patch wasn't optimal and other issues arrise.
Have to give MS more time than a week tho.

Regards,

WayuU
     
     ----- Chad Harris wrote: -----
     
     My question is why is Microsoft silent on all its sites on these two
     serious IE holes particularly after one of them is almost two months old?
     Maybe someone from Microsoft who works with Mr. Charney or Mr. Nash will
     comment on them
     
     Mr. Charney seems unable to direct his former zeal for pursuit of alleged
     cybercrime behind when it comes to transparency and showcasing these MS
     security holes, communicating them to the public in a timely manner, and
     either coming up with fixes in a reasonable time or pre-empting the need for
     an onslaught of hotfixes in the operating system and the browser. I don't
     see any mention of them on the MS Security, Technet, MSDN, or Presspass
     sites.
     
     There is a potentially devestating security hole in Internet Explorer 6 and
     possibly earlier versions. IE. This follows the discovery of a vulnerability
     in Windows XP earlier this week. You could be fooled into downloading files
     that look safe but could be anything, particularly executables. A demo (POC
     Proof of Concept Exploit) of both the hole in Windows and the hole in IE is
     avialable on Security Company Secunia's sites. The Windows security flaw
     allows construction of a malicious folder that has both script code and a
     malicious file. If you are tricked into opening that folder, Windows
     Explorer will execute the code.
     
     The latest vulnerability in Internet Explorer can display a fake URL in the
     address and status bars which is different from the real page location. The
     idea is to engineer users into revealing sensitive information or executing
     malware as a download.
     
     The third vulnerabilty allows IE to be tricked into opening a file with a
     different application than the file extension indicates by embedding a CSLID
     in the file name:
     
     http://www.secunia.com/advisories/10708/ Windows XP Exploit Not Yet
     Addressed
     
     New Explorer hole could be devastating
     http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/01/28/HNiehole_1.html
     
     IE File Download Extension Spoofing Unfixed
     http://www.secunia.com/advisories/10736/
     
     IE URL Spoofing Vulnerability Since December, 2003 Unfixed
     http://www.secunia.com/advisories/10395/
     
     It would be easy to get people to download the Doom Worm or even worse, to
     combine this latest hole with the Explorer spoofing problem discovered in
     December but not fixed by Microsoft. Many articles on the web are
     speculating that the reason Microsoft has not fixed it is because it can't.
     
     Microsoft has been beefing up security according to a large number of
     releases from MS Presspass. They hired Scott Charney, an attorney who was
     Chief of Computer Crime at the U.S. Department of Justice and a key member
     of the US DOJ's Computer Search and Seizure Work Group in April sending
     Howard Schmidt to the President's Critical Infrastructure Protection Board.
     Mike Nash is Vice President for the Security Business Unit at Microsoft.
     Neither gentleman has had a comment on any of the three exploits, and
     Microsoft has posted nothing to date on any of its sites. However, on
     November 19, 2003 Mr. Charney testified to Congress that "Security is the #1
     Microsoft Priority."
     
     Microsoft Executive Bio of Scott Charney
     
     http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/innovation/twc/issues/scott_charney_bio.asp
     
     COMMENTARY: LEADER OR LOBBYIST Scott Charney
     
     http://discuss.extremetech.com/n/main.asp?webtag=extremetech&nav=messages&msg=8914.3
     
     Testimony of Scott Charney Before House Sub Chief Trustworthy Computing
     Strategist Microsoft Corporation:
     
     http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/charney/11-19testimony.asp
     
     It is difficult to understand why Microsoft has been silent on one of these
     IE spoofs for nearly two months. Is it possible that there is no fix?
     Further the sheer amount of hotfixes lends to instability and bugs and
     sometimes considerable side effects in Windows and the browser.
     
     
     Chad Harris
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     



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