Re: SECURITY INCOMPETENCE AT MICROSOFT

From: Bill Sanderson (Bill_Sanderson_at_msn.com.plugh.org)
Date: 09/20/03 

Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 22:34:18 -0400

Ed - you gave a large number of system processes and Microsoft servers with
which they communicate at times.

I have seen documentation, I believe, of each and every one of these
instances, and the explanation has always been innocent--i.e. no personally
identifiable information is being exchanged. Some of them can be eliminated
by checkboxes in configuration of, for example, media player, as I recall.

I don't have the resources or the patience to document them all for
you--you've spotted that they are communicating out, and that they are
talking to Microsoft.com domain machines, but nothing of the content of
those communications.

Maybe I'm a Polyanna. I suspect I have had more contact with Microsoft than
you have, and I have found their explanations believable (brainwashed??)
Another way to look at it might be, given the climate of public thinking
about Microsoft at the moment--don't you think, if there were personal data
flowing in those contacts--that somebody would have brought it to public
attention by now?

Anyway, if you want to find something bad about Microsoft dig a little
deeper--the public stuff you've spotted just isn't it, in my opinion.

"Ed >:-)" <Prog611752@aol.com> wrote in message
news:dfdmmvgsm65r5b14134ptl8c5o90d3kkb6@4ax.com...
> No problem. I wasn't exactly trying to pick a fight. I was just
> showing my proof as i was asked to do. If someone ever can answer the
> question i have given and prove to me that it has a valid use/reason
> for doing such that doesn't compromise our personal privacy. I'll be
> more than happy to promote M$ in a good light.
>
> Ed
>
> "Digging for answers to questions they don't want to asnwer"
>
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 16:36:51 -0400, "Bill Sanderson"
> <Bill_Sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org> wrote:
>
> >Ed - I spend time here hoping to help others.
> >
> >It doesn't feel productive to spend time arguing with others who are
> >basically there to pick an argument.
> >
> >I've left your message marked as unread so that I can go back over it if
I'm
> >feeling in the right mood, but don't hold your breath. No offense, but I
> >just don't do a lot of chit-chat.
> >
> >"Ed >:-)" <Prog611752@aol.com> wrote in message
> >news:43hjmv4p5eerq0eok4rnm7m9utlk34q418@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 10:23:24 -0400, "Bill Sanderson"
> >> <Bill_Sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"xp slave" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:ulDcOWSfDHA.4024@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >> >> All I'm saying is
> >> >> when these users ask for help in these forums then they shouldn't be
> >put
> >> >> down and ridiculed. Although Raymond pretty much got the type of
> >> >responses
> >> >> he deservered based on the tone of his post, I've seen plenty of
other
> >> >> posters belittled when asking for help. According to Microsoft
> >marketing
> >> >
> >> >These forums are open public places. We can't prevent people from
> >> >belittling others except by setting examples, and perhaps, direct
> >compaint
> >> >to the offender from time to time. The best antidote to this behavior
is
> >a
> >> >courteous and comprehensive reply to the original poster, regardless
of
> >how
> >> >poorly formed their post may be. As a group of volunteers, sometimes
we
> >can
> >> >manage that response, and sometimes it doesn't happen.
> >> >
> >> >A lot of energy has gone into this thread that would have better
helped
> >out
> >> >some folks with genuine problems.
> >> >
> >> I try to help when i can but i always have extra energy to spare to
> >> give a quick slap or reality to M$.
> >>
> >> BTW. I didn't see a reply to the beating up on M$ post. You backing
> >> out on me like Bruce and the others did in the other group?
> >
>
> "Digging for answers to questions they don't want to answer"

Relevant Pages

  • Re: Application sample for UVC extension units
    ... But the application sample of microsoft was incomplete. ... You are writing a ksproxy plugin. ... The first parameter you are given is the IUnknown pointer for the ksproxy ... communicate with the driver. ...
    (microsoft.public.development.device.drivers)
  • Print size
    ... After I downloaded a set of upgrades for Microsoft 2000, ... my print outs on my Officejet G85 are all in large size. ... communicate with the printer over a Linksys WPC11 network, ...
    (microsoft.public.win2000.printing)
  • Re: activation
    ... > As XP has a 10 point system to determine when reactivation ... > periodically with Microsoft? ... > could be made internally by xp without need to communicate ... No. XP stores the hash of the devices checked in a file on your hard ...
    (microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin)
  • Re: f0dders fabulous folly.
    ... Down Under but it is good enough to communicate with Microsoft ... "It is a valid EULA" ... and everyone is welcome to have an INFINITE ^ INFINITE percent squared ...
    (alt.lang.asm)
  • Re: Shutdown script for MS updates?
    ... you can store update files remotely on Microsoft servers. ... enables you to take advantage of Microsoft Update only for the distribution ... If you don't have enough disk space to install WSUS, ...
    (microsoft.public.windows.server.scripting)