Re: NO, MICROSOFT DOES NOT SEND OUT SECURITY PATCHES, IT IS A VIRUS!

From: Torrey (TRitter_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 05/23/03 

Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 10:30:00 -0500

"xp slave" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e5GB95TIDHA.2152@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Unfortunately you are wrong. There is no comparison between a new user
and
> malicious spammers. A lot of these new users are barely able to post to
the
> newsgroups via the web interface much less figure out how to search one.
It
> may be simple to you but it's not to them. What if someone sat you down
in
> the pilot's seat on a 757 and said "OK, fly me to LA". If you had never
> flown an airplane you wouldn't have a clue.

Bad analogy. I would know I don't know how to operate a 757. I would not
just start pushing buttons and clicking things like a home user would. Home
users are led to believe a pc is easy to operate.

>
>
> "Daniel Billingsley" <dbillingsley@NO.durcon.SPAAMM.com> wrote in message
> news:e$V50IGIDHA.4048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > I don't really mean to be be attacking the poor people who truly need
> help.
> > However, in a newsgroup the flood of posts asking questions that could
> have
> > been easily answered with a few minutes of responsibility and searching
> take
> > away from the overall value of the newsgroup to those needing more
> advanced
> > help. For illustration - if there were 1,000 posts here a day by people
> > asking if Microsoft sent them a virus, we'd all just unsubscribe and
then
> > this would become a useless resource for those truly needing more
advanced
> > help.
> >
> > It's much like a spammer suggesting that "It's no big deal - can't you
> just
> > hit the delete button?"
> >
> > I don't mean to argue here, and I've certainly been known to answer
those
> > questions myself sometimes, but I hope you can see the other side of
this
> > too.
> >
> > One of the things may be helpful is for someone to take on the task of
> > compiling a FAQ of these types of questions and then posting it here
about
> > 3-4 times a day with the subject "FAQ - read this before posting your
> > question" or something like that.
> >
> > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> > <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in
> message
> > news:OUN%23ZTAIDHA.2220@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > It's everyone's first time, some time. Cut people some slack. You
aren't
> > > getting paid by the post to answer NG questions, I presume, so the
> simple
> > > answer is: don't reply to the ones you feel grumpy about.
> > >
> > > Jason wrote:
> > > > * Charles Otstot <saries@nc.rr.com>:
> > > >>
> > > >> "Torrey" <TRitter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:eeFW005HDHA.672@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Because they are f'ing lazy asses who don't want to RTFM or learn
> > > >> anything.
> > > >>> They deserve every virus they get plus 1.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >> BZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!! WRONG ANSWER!!!!!!
> > > >>
> > > >> Use a little thought and have a little compassion Torrey...
> > > >>
> > > >> The vast majority of those who post these questions are not
newsgroup
> > > >> habitues. They are more often ordinary, everyday people who use a
> > > >> computer to perform ordinary, everyday tasks. If they are technical
> > > >> at all, it's on a very rudimentary level. Those who want to learn
> > > >> more will do so, but without making the mistakes that *all*
> > > >> inexperienced people (I've hated the word "newbie" for nearly 20
> > > >> years) make.
> > > >
> > > > Then they should learn to do a search. It's not that hard, I use a
> > > > text newsreader and I see about 50 from the start asking the same
> > > > question. And when I go to the MS website and access this group I
see
> > > > at least a dozen all asking the same question. All without my ever
> > > > reading a post just the subject lines.
> > > >
> > > >> These folks are simply looking for a
> > > >> helping hand from those they consider more knowledgeable and who
can
> > > >> either allay their fears or assist them in preventing those fears
> > > >> from resulting in (perceived) disaster. They deserve to be treated
> > > >> with respect and kindness, not ridicule and insults. It doesn't
take
> > > >> but a minute to answer the question, why waste that time with
> > > >> vitriol? It hasn't helped anybody and makes it that much more
likely
> > > >> that the questioner will shy away from learning more and will
really
> > > >> encounter problems down the road.
> > > >>
> > > >> Religion aside, you really are your brother's keeper. If we're not
> > > >> willing to help others, we become less than nothing ourselves.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Im no ones keeper but my own. I and probibly many others have no
> > > > problem helping out if someone has a problem but also we expect a
> > > > little leg work to be done by the person who has the problem.
> > > > Little things like doing a search to see if this is a common
> > > > problem etc.. They get short answers and insults because
> > > > after the 50th time you see the same question asked by someone
> > > > too lazy to do any work you get a little grumpy.
> > > >
> > > > Jason
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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