Re: Prerequisite to MS02-061 for SQL (MSKB 327068)?

From: B. Goodman (no@spam.org)
Date: 12/11/02 

From: B. Goodman <no@spam.org>
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:17:29 -0500

In article <#UVdO1JoCHA.2440@TK2MSFTNGP10>,
Bill_Sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org says...
> I don't know your answer with certainty, so I won't answer it.
>
> I do know a tool I would trust to have this correct, though:
>
> HFNETCHK, in the latest version from:
>
> http://hfnetchk.shavlik.com
>
> See what that has to say about your system.
>
> I understand your skepticism, and, as I say, I don't know the answer, but
> sometimes patches are revised and reissued with the same number, and
> sometimes patches don't, in fact, get applied, although there's no clear
> appearance of failure.
>
> "B. Goodman" <no@spam.org> wrote in message
> news:MPG.186032a8cc0d9c599896cd@msnews.microsoft.com...
> > Could somebody please confirm for me that prior to installing the patch
> > described in MS02-061 (MSKB 327068) for SQL 7 SP4 on an NT 4 SP6a
> > server, I must FIRST install the hotfix described in MSKB 258437? It
> > appears so, but I find myself wondering HOW I could SUDDENLY need a
> > patch whose file (NTmarta.dll) is dated 25 April 2000?
> >
> > I mean, this machine has been dutifully patched with a litany of OS and
> > SQL hotfixes and services packs. You mean to tell me that the NT4 Post
> > SP6a Security Rollup Patch from July 2001 DIDN'T have this? And SQL 7
> > Service Pack 3 DIDN'T have this? And SQL 7 Service Pack 4, which came
> > out in June of THIS YEAR DIDN'T have this? And MS02-056, the
> > "Cumulative Patch for SQL Server" dated 2 October 2002?
> >
> > Come on, this patch is nearly 3 years old. How can it ONLY NOW become a
> > prerequisite? Why isn't it built into the patch for MS02-061?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>
>
Thanks for the reply. I am already using HFNetChk v 3.86 from Shavlik.
It shows that my server needs MS02-061, but does not mention the hotfix
described in MS KB 258437. This hotfix is called "FIX:
GetEffectiveRightsFromAcl() fails in Service Pack 6" and in the article
it says the "Symptoms" are:

In Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 6 (SP6) and SP6a, the
GetEffectiveRightsFromAcl function is broken. For a given discretionary
access-control list (DACL), GetEffectiveRightsFromAcl returns the same
access mask for all users (even though different users may have
different access rights). The function works correctly in Windows NT 4.0
in SP5.

Under "Resolution" it says, "Without GetEffectiveRightsFromAcl, there is
not a good way to enumerate a user's access rights for a particular
object."

So, I'm still left wondering how this was NEVER fixed in any cumulative
or rollup patch in the nearly three years since the NTmarta.dll file was
updated. And, what would happen on my server if I installed the latest
SQL hotfix (MS02-061) without having noticed the "Note" about 258437?

Thanks

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