Re: Printer Passwords

From: B. Goodman (no@spam.org)
Date: 09/21/02 

From: B. Goodman <no@spam.org>
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 18:38:17 -0400

Sorry to nitpick, but how many applications will NO LONGER WORK once you
make your kids "Limited Users"? My guess is that you'll quickly make
them admins again!

Can anyone guess why MS chose to make EVERY USER AN ADMINISTRATOR in XP?
My theory is that the most common MS applications REQUIRE it. See, they
make a "secure" OS, but leave its defaults wide-open (EVERYONE-FULL
CONTROL) to ensure maximum functionality. They then design applications
that require EVERYONE-FULL CONTROL or sometimes, when they're feeling
particularly "trustworthy" they need only POWER USER rights. Then when
notified of all the exploits that can be carried out if users are POWER
USERS or ADMINISTRATORS, MS points out how BAD IT IS to give them these
permissions.

Sorry, MS, but I've passed the point of frustration with you guys. If
you spend 10% the effort towards security as you have with WPA, DRM, and
new strong-arm licensing, you MIGHT actually take a few steps towards
being secure.

Can't you guys feel your goodwill in the IT world beginning to crumble?
And for the record, I've been a staunch SUPPORTER of Microsoft for over
a decade. I just can't stomach it any more. I suspect that 2001 may
have been the last year that I will have bought any MS products.

In article <e4JgQEFYCHA.2544@tkmsftngp11>, aaronmaronline@microsoft.com
says...
> Actually, I think you're on the right track.
>
> Set them up with their own account, and make him/her/them a Limited User.
> No password required. They just click on their name to log on. No-password
> is not a security risk on the network -- WinXP doesn't let you log on over
> the network using an account that has a blank blank password!
>
> To restrict access to a local printer, I think you need to boot up in Safe
> Mode (press F8 on startup) to get to the Security tab on the printer.
>
>
> "Robert Burris" <fossil24@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:#PnUiA#XCHA.2464@tkmsftngp11...
> > No. Why don't you use the features in the OS to do this?
> >
> > Make a user called "kids" with the password "kids" and make them login
> > under that account. Deny that account access to the printer. Problem
> > solved.
> >
> > Be advised, however, that it's a dumb idea to create such an account
> unless
> > you run a really secure system. You can create that account without a
> > password, but that would be downright stupid, unless you run a really
> secure
> > system. Don't depend on Microsoft or AOL to protect your computer or
> data.
> > You need to know what you are doing, because the people who want to steal
> > private information like credit card numbers, or use your computer as a
> > zombie to launch DDOS attacks, ... they know what they're doing.
> >
> > Do you have a firewall? Are you NetBIOS ports closed? Do you know how to
> > restrict rights on the "kids" account to the bare minimum? Do you have
> your
> > important data backed up? Have you installed Service Pack 1?
> >
> > Think of it this way. Would it be a good idea of you to leave your
> basement
> > window wide open, because your kids don't want to use the front door and
> > your don't want to train them to use a key? Would you do that knowing
> that
> > your neighbors aren't trustworthy?
> >
> > I suspect your security is already practically non-existent or poor, and I
> > don't feel good about telling you how to make it weaker for the sake of
> > convenience.
> >
> > "John" <jagec4@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:23c301c25f72$6d1ad260$37ef2ecf@TKMSFTNGXA13...
> > > I am using Windows XP Home Edition. I want to be able to
> > > stop my kids from using the printer and wasting a lot of

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