Re: trace ip
From: msnews (ef_hutton@hotmail.com)
Date: 07/23/02
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From: "msnews" <ef_hutton@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:14:52 -0500
If they are very skilled you probably can't fully track them because they
will hack your through a network they hacked into from another network...
Good luck though.
"suse" <suse38@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1a4ef01c2317c$16a45790$b1e62ecf@tkmsftngxa04...
try www.eamnesia.com or www.ripe.net. eamnesia do a
reverse IP seach. I found eamnesia gave me more info to
track down my hacker!! Good luck.
>-----Original Message-----
> How can I trace someone trying to hack my ascend
digital vpn modem?
>posted 07-12-2002 10:04 PM
> (post #1)
>
>
>I have a small ISP business. Someone has been trying to
hack my Lucent
>Ascend digital modem box, his last attack I logged he
tried 15 or so
>different passwords and user names in 1 minute. If he
were dialing into it
>that number of attempts would be impossible, he has to be
already online
>with a user account, or accessing it through our router
(which is improbable
>but not impossible) this unit has RADIUS functions built
into it for user
>authentication and is being logged into our RAD logs. If
he is already
>online I assume he could be traced, at least far enough
to tell me if he is
>one of my users. Am I correct? If so how do I trak him
and what procedure
>should I use to do this?
>
>
>
>
>answers:
>
>you can use arin.net . enter his ip there and it gives
his ISP. call his ISP
>and then they will turn him off
>
>
>
>
>If he is a smart hacker he will go through one or more
different networks to
>hide his true IP address.
>
>I may be his ISP...I need to get his IP address to do
this, unfortunatly
>this is not one of the things being logged. Thanks for
your reply though.
>P.S. He may also be trying to get in through the telnet
port.
>
>Well? I guess you can try setting up some old crappy
computer you do not use
>any more and use it as bait?? Put it somewhere on your
network that will be
>easy to see from the out side or make the security really
LAX on that comp.
>That way I guess you can log him or her from another
computer so he can't
>mess around with the computer log files. A bait computer
is a little easy to
>spot so install some stuff on that pc that makes it look
important heh and
>make sure they, he or her cant use this comp to kill
other comps on your
>network... ??? Hope I helped??
>
>You Should Get Snort And Portsentry. They Log Attacks and
The Attackers Ip.
>This Is Just An Idea.
>http://www.sourcefire.com/
>http://www.psionic.com/products/
>
>
>I would again suggest snort. www.snort.org
>There is a windows precompiled binary version to
download . It comes with an
>extensive help menu so you will be able to figure it out.
It is all command
>line so basicly you would go to cmd and then cd\snort
(presuming installed
>to c:\) So it will look like this in command
>
>C:\Snort>
>Then you would just type out the command you want to run
in this case u want
>Intrusion Detection System so the command would be
>
>C:\Snort>Snort -dev -l log -h 192.168.1.0/24 -c snort.conf
>OR
>C:\Snort>Snort -d -h 192.168.1.0/24 -l log -c snort.conf
>
>The snort.conf is the basic configuration files and then
there are all sorts
>of other files ranging from DDOS , ICMP , Backdoor ,
Netbios and a bunch of
>other stuff. The help file is written for *nix operating
systems but with a
>little bit of patients you will figure out the windows
commands, Its pretty
>much just leave out all the ./ out off the command.
>
>If you manage to get his IP, NeoTrace for Windoze is a
wonderful thing. It
>shows pretty much anything you'll need to know about the
offending party to
>shut him down or just have fun with (provided you're that
kind of sick puppy
>p-) ! )
>
>
>get his/her ip addy and do the whois to the ip. you can
try
>http://www.dwizard.net
>
>
>
> quote:
> (and, from the way you state it, it sounds like
you're not already
>logging each and every connection in to that modem box? I
get that feeling
>simply from the "last attack I logged" - which implies
there are some that
>you didn't... and t{w |ZT hat, I'm
afraid, is a Very Bad Thing (tm))
>
>
>
>All of the login attempts, (user calls, modem checks
user/pass with radius
>database, if ok, then, check Authentication server with
its radius database,
>if ok, route user through router to internet ) the router
should have all
>the proper Cisco filters and blocks in place, we have a
certified Cisco
>networking dood...hehe...CCNA? Anyway I am not too
worried about security as
>my partner in this is certified M$ and assures me that
our system is
>safe....Although we are working an building a Snort Box
for monitoring and
>tracking. People have tried to crack our safeguards more
than once and our
>system logs show us what they will, only M$ does not have
tracing and
>tracking services like it should, go figure. We also are
going to switch
>over to a Sun Ultra Sparc 60 we took out of mothballs for
use as
>authentication in the near future. As for our modem box
it has never been
>comprimised yet, we change passwords and login names on a
scheduled basis,
>same for our servers.
>
>Thanks for all your help and if you guys/girls can think
of anything else
>let me know. I have been a seat-of-the-pants admin since
the early '80s and
>I am self taught in all I know, so if I don't speak the
proper jargon please
>correct me, I am here because I want to learn more, I am
a sponge.
>
>
>
> quote:
> Originally posted here by aeallison
> draziw
>
> All of the login attempts, (user calls, modem
checks user/pass with
>radius database, if ok, then, check Authentication server
with its radius
>database, if ok, route user through router to internet )
the router should
>have all the proper Cisco filters and blocks in place, we
have a certified
>Cisco networking dood...hehe...CCNA? Anyway I am not too
worried about
>security as my partner in this is certified M$ and
assures me that our
>system is safe....Although we are working an building a
Snort Box for
>monitoring and tracking. People have tried to crack our
safeguards more than
>once and our system logs show us what they will, only M$
does not have
>tracing and tracking services like it should, go figure.
We also are going
>to switch over to a Sun Ultra Sparc 60 we took out of
mothballs for use as
>authentication in the near future. As for our modem box
it has never been
>comprimised yet, we change passwords and login names on a
scheduled basis,
>same for our servers.
>
>
>
>
>Well, I must say that pieces of paper do not "make" an
engineer, in my
>experiences this is especially true when dealing with
security (yes I
>realize that you're not "an Engineer" without those vital
pieces of paper,
>but having them doesn't really mean much anything in the
overall picture...
><edit>eg. doesn't say you know how to troubleshoot worth
a darn or do
>anything specific other than pass some instructor's test
to someone's
>satisfaction</edit> ). The CCNA is, well... it's Cisco's
first test and just
>requires "time" - and I've previously stated my general
opinion of the MCSE
>(particularly of people that have a need to say "oh I'm a
MCSE, it's ok" -
>seems to go hand-in-hand with all these "leet h4ck3r
d00ds" if you catch my
>drift).
>
>In my experience, "blindy trus
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