Re: Claims Regarding the MS02-023 Security Bulletin

From: Mark Strelecki, ACP (be6-506@nospam.strelecki.com)
Date: 05/23/02 

From: " Mark Strelecki, ACP" <be6-506@nospam.strelecki.com>
Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 13:31:13 -0400

Jerry -

There ARE folks here who are FAR more critical of MS than David - myself
being one - and I understand the difference between SPAM, foul language, and
critical commentary on the Microsoft Way of Doing Business.

You ARE filtering these groups, as you say, but it's just done with
"automated filters". Interesting spin, Jerry.

A reply that doesn't get posted here HAS been filtered, or rejected, or
deleted - whether by a "person" or their programming. I trust you don't feel
there's a difference.

My sent items folder has four messages (four copies of the SAME reply to
David) that failed to post to this newsgroup yesterday, and I've only been
doing this for, oh, about twenty-seven years. Meaning it was no failure at
MY end to get these messages across. Other replies of mine to this group
have posted without incident.

I certainly understand - they are YOUR servers, and you make the rules here.

I just wish you were more forthcoming as to the reasons a message would be
filtered, because the criteria you mentioned were NOT breached in anything I
wrote.

I WAS more than critical of the manner MS chooses to design, implement,
test, and market their software, as well the recently announced "Security
Initiative" (or whatever name you gave it).

I suggested that with the massive braintrust you benefit from there in
Redmond, and the massive profits the firm generates each quarter, that you
all could be doing a MUCH BETTER JOB at not only avoiding security issues in
the future, but to fix and repair all those products that have gone before.

Band aids are hardly fixes, Jerry. Especially for the severity of the wounds
seen so far, suffered by paying customers across the globe.

Perhaps corporate has a bit higher sensitivity to harsh criticisms and
caustic commentary? That might be a good thing, in retrospect.

I just wanted the facts of my posting attempts to see the light of day.

Your comments were respectfully welcomed. I really do appreciate your
dialogs here.

Thank you. And good luck to you all. 

--
Mark Strelecki,  ACP          BE6.2600.011208c
Computing and Programming Since 1975  http://www.strelecki.com
Protect Your Rights -- Fight UCITA   http://www.4cite.org
"Jerry Bryant [MS]" <jbryant@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ubqe5qmACHA.1940@tkmsftngp04...
> We filter for SPAM and foul language. These are automated filters. These
> groups are not "moderated" and they are public across all of Usenet which
> means they are hosted around the world. The bottom line is that we don't
> "really" own them. We only own the servers where we host them. We don't
own
> the thousands of other servers that host them.
>
> If we filtered these groups as you have implied, then fully half of
David's
> posts would have been removed and he would not be an MVP today :-) Nobody
> has been more critical of Microsoft in this group than he has.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Bryant - MCSE, MCDBA
> Microsoft IT Communities
>
> Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
>
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
> "David Dickinson [MVP]" <eis.no-spam@softhome.net> wrote in message
> news:O18iIiDACHA.1660@tkmsftngp02...
> > Mark Strelecki, ACP wrote:
> > > Sorry David -
> > >
> > > I tried FOUR TIMES to post a reply here to your message but was
> > > rebuffed each time.
> > >
> > > Seems messages are being filtered in this group, as my other replies
> > > to other threads worked properly.
> > >
> > > I didn't have the kindest words for MS, it would appear.
> > >
> > > It's their newsgroup - they can filter whatever they please, I guess.
> >
> > Lemme see what I can find out.  I'll be very disappointed if that is
true
> > for messages which don't contain foul language.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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